Submitted by diogo_ao t3_ywy7sl in Futurology
What type of platform will replace Linkedin?
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AcademicGuest t1_iwlvtvk wrote
Nope, bill gates is a great guy and Microsoft effectively connects Americans with other Americans for professional and personal use! Wonderful team and company.
TiddyTwoShoes t1_iwlwqh6 wrote
You mean Jeffery Epsteins' friend Bill Gates? That Bill Gates? I've heard about his predilection for islands but I haven't heard about anything in the contiguous Americas.
ttkciar t1_iwlwtq9 wrote
As a LinkedIn user since 2007, I can confidently say that it's become more annoying than ever. It didn't used to be this way. I don't even go there anymore.
If it isn't dying, maybe it should. It's no longer useful.
boostedgts t1_iwlx4wl wrote
Half the time I confuse LinkedIn and Facebook. I have to double check what platform I’m on anymore.
skuMfElon t1_iwlxihd wrote
Honestly so many fucking morons keep posting non-work related soft news like fuck off I'm only here for jobs
Obvious_Insurance666 t1_iwlyfn7 wrote
My industry is full of corporate posts and comments full of people begging for work
YOurAreWr0ng t1_iwlyvfg wrote
Do you get paid to kiss ass professionally?
diogo_ao OP t1_iwlzkm0 wrote
Kinda agree. Why is it annoying for you?
diogo_ao OP t1_iwm0d8t wrote
They wanted to be a professional network. But now all I have is spam all the way to apply for jobs or very salesy interactions
diogo_ao OP t1_iwm0hpr wrote
What do you mean by corporate posts?
diogo_ao OP t1_iwm0wmj wrote
I feel the same. It's no longer useful. What do you use instead for professional use?
Obvious_Insurance666 t1_iwm1gf8 wrote
Like pr posts and announcements from a company that have nothing to do with jobs. Every single comment is a poorly worded version of "give me a job".
ttkciar t1_iwm2h2k wrote
For keeping in touch with ex-coworkers, I use a mish-mash of different systems, mainly Facebook, IRC, Discord, and email. Whatever the contact uses, that they are willing to share with me.
Ten years ago LinkedIn was the preferable system for managing contacts, and I would still appreciate something better, but with how LinkedIn has fallen there just isn't anything viable. A better replacement would need to be used ubiquitously, and right now there is no such system.
hammelcamel t1_iwm2nxg wrote
Spot on. I hate it.
Familiar-Antelope316 t1_iwm3bll wrote
Hope so. It's a wretched hive of hussle culture turds
ttkciar t1_iwm42hr wrote
Ten years ago it was pretty great. I used it to keep track of ex-coworkers who were worth knowing, and it was easy to see where they currently were in their careers.
I always thought that if I ever wanted to start another startup, it would be easy to look through my list of contacts and find amazingly talented people who might be interested.
The dearth of viable "family" health insurance plans put the kibbosh on that idea. Right now if you want good health care in America, you have to work for a company large enough that insurance companies will make their high-end health plans available to them. Startups don't get access to those.
And now LinkedIn has degenerated into a toxic morass of clueless, desperate recruiters and spam. Ah well.
SeneInSPAAACE t1_iwm48f6 wrote
From all the job offers, I doubt it.
Do people use it for something besides looking for or advertising jobs? Because that seems like a mistake.
ttkciar t1_iwm4yu4 wrote
"Hustle culture" is just what people are calling "good work ethic" nowadays, right?
asfdasfdfads t1_iwm92v7 wrote
LinkedIn is freaking facebook, instagram or any other social platform. It used to be a useful tool for professionals, but it's turned into bullshit. Whatever is next, I hope they keep their vision clear and keep it for professional discussions alone.
peolothegreat t1_iwmd57o wrote
I still get contacted by recruiters for jobs, so it's useful to me, but I agree that is becoming more and more annoying. I don't know what can replace it, but I suspect that any platform replacing it would go down the same facebookization/instagrammization path.
Rebel_Skies t1_iwmhjhh wrote
Of course not. How else would malicious actors build entire profiles of your company's staffing and their roles from neat open source intel? We should be so lucky for it to die.
chill633 t1_iwmmp2v wrote
You skipped a step.
- They wanted to be a professional network.
- Microsoft bought them. <---
- Now it's all sales and spam.
ttkciar t1_iwmw9xe wrote
It's a good place to whistle up recruiters, but a lousy place to search for jobs.
Use indeed.com to search for jobs.
BlkOwndYtFam t1_iwn7f8s wrote
Yep. It's gotten so that there's the same fake posting for an ESG job in every city on earth. Rather than removing it, Linkedin just ads a "beware of fake postings" blurb at the top. Gotta take in that dough.
AlbertaMustHateKids t1_iwnb5pp wrote
Linkedin for anyone unfamiliar is a social media platform meant for those who need their asses kissed and those who kiss asses. It's where a multibillion dollar corporation goes to brag about a $400 donation to some organization and gets their PR people to make it seem like they just saved the world. It's complete and utter trash. The more time you spend on there the more you realize women think it's a new version of only fans or instagram. Don't say anything though or it'll be a whole Me Too situation even if you would never ever ever hire them because they believe looking profession is dressing like a whore at a Vegas Club at 3:00am..
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Familiar-Antelope316 t1_iwnke12 wrote
No, it's the commoditization of every aspect of human existence. The idea that the only thing we contribute to the world are the things we can make money off of. Can you paint? Make it your side hustle. Like computers? Better get on that stream and start grinding or using your tech skills to invest or get into programming to get a better job.
Hustle culture ignores the value of contentment, enjoyment, passion for passions sake, it ignores some of the foundational aspects of being a human being and condenses it down into dollars earned, items obtained, and the false sense of feeling more superior than someone who doesn't have those things.
It doesn't respect the individual or their goals and passions. You can have a good work ethic and still want to have time for yourself, time for self discovery, creativity, and artistry all for their own sake.
ttkciar t1_iwno0yu wrote
> It doesn't respect the individual or their goals and passions. You can have a good work ethic and still want to have time for yourself, time for self discovery, creativity, and artistry all for their own sake.
I've been told similar things by other people, but I can't really tell if it's just the toxicity of taking this to the extreme that has people set against it, or if they're just against (or don't understand) the concept of deferred gratification.
Deferred gratification is part of having a good work ethic. It can involve temporarily setting aside things that are nice to have (including self-discovery, creativity, and artistry) in order to get ahead or take advantage of an opportunity.
Small children just want to play games all day, but we make them set aside play temporarily every day so they can go to school and get an education. This, too, is an example of deferred gratification. It's putting off something you'd like to do so you can do something with long-term beneficial consequences, even if it's not something you enjoy.
Similarly, it is normal and expected for young adults to set aside things they would like to do for a few years, long enough to get their careers started. There will be time for self-indulgence later.
Relatedly, if someone is in a dire financial situation (as so many people are these days, with inflation, stagnant wages and the housing crisis making it hard or impossible to make ends meet), it is also a good time to defer gratification so that they can take advantage of more opportunities to earn money, and hopefully not fall behind on their rent and get evicted.
Wikipedia has a pretty good article about it, though they don't tie it in to work ethic that I see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_gratification
To someone who doesn't get the point of deferred gratification, it might look like "hustle culture" is just sacrificing one's luxuries and pastimes for nothing but toil and misery, but there's a point to it all. By accepting temporary hardship now, they are securing reward later which would otherwise be unobtainable (like landing a good job in their career track), and/or avoiding greater hardship later (like becoming homeless).
They used to teach this stuff in school. Is that no longer the case?
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Familiar-Antelope316 t1_iwodb6s wrote
It's not a guarantee, it's the furthest thing from a guarantee, it's a risk. You're risking your present day enjoyment for the hope of future success. My brother tried the same thing when he invested heavily in his car repair company, which burned down and he tried killing himself, he's doing better now.
My dad sacrificed his whole life for me and my family, which was amazing for me and my siblings but it came at the cost of his passions. Work became his identity because it was how he provided for us, which sounds like a romantically self sacrificial great thing to do and it was until he was supposed to retire but because of financial commitments (mostly having to do with a now chronically depressed son who was in massive financial issues after his hop burned down and a host of other issues) he couldn't. And then when someone died at his job, he blamed himself and in the end took his own life even though investigations found it wasn't his fault.
What I've seen of hustle culture and this weird cult of responsibility that says to take on as much as you can for the sake of a myth of guaranteed success with little regard to your current wellbeing or the long term effects the lack of self care can provide.
That's not even getting into people gambling their life savings away on get rich quick schemes like NFTs and investments that often don't pan out but you don't see those stories on MTV cribs or whatever nonsense wealth fantasy shows people watch these days.
Hustle culture is terrible, damaging, and toxic for everyone involved except the wealthy people who are exploiting them.
mr_bedbugs t1_iwonkae wrote
I'm allowed to enjoy something without turning it into an income stream and source of stress.
My hobbies are just that. Hobbies.
Holiday_Bunch_9501 t1_iwoorqt wrote
I have no idea, I have a good job with a non profit, benefits and yearly pay bumps. I haven't even thought about LinkedIn for the past 6 years. Why the fuck would I even log into that site if I am not lookin for a job??
Holiday_Bunch_9501 t1_iwoovx9 wrote
Ugh... I loathe that hustle culture B.S. It's the new multi-level marketing for idiots.
Holiday_Bunch_9501 t1_iwoq2o5 wrote
Recruiters do use it. If you are looking, definitely put your resume on LinkedIn. If you are looking for a real job a recruiter is your best option.
You think emailing your resume in works? You know what happens with every job posting on the internet??? The company gets 10,000 emails a day for that one position and 99.99% of them are from completely unqualified idiots. So unless you have the exact right set of key words in your resume that computer filter is looking for, you get auto-deleted.
Recruiters find you on LinkedIn, they screen you; meet with you in person first to make sure you are not a smelly scum bag who smells like pickles or something. Make sure you do know what you say you know And then they by pass all that shit from the internet and sit you in front of the hiring company.
Since the recruiter goes looking for you, they don't get overwhelmed with BS candidates. Recruiters look for people who live in the area they are in or in the area the job is in, so you are not lost in a sea of applicants half of who live in Africa and Asia or the other side of the country.
Holiday_Bunch_9501 t1_iwoqcdi wrote
Also, lots of B.S. comments from people trying to look active and dynamic on LinkedIn. Imagine influencers trying to out do each other being positive, fun and quirky but in the comments of those stupid PR posts. They think it will get them noticed and get a job.
Holiday_Bunch_9501 t1_iwoqmk7 wrote
It's a social network grandpa, come on, get with the times. All the cool kids from ages 18-35 with median incomes of $500,000 a year hang out on LinkedIn all day!!!
lol, for real, I haven't logged into LinkedIn since I got my current job 6 years ago, why the fuck would I go to that site if I am not looking for a job??
ttkciar t1_iwoqqm2 wrote
Of course. It's your choice. Did anyone suggest otherwise?
mr_bedbugs t1_iwou71y wrote
Yes. "Hustle culture" people
diogo_ao OP t1_iwpfw2e wrote
This is funny
diogo_ao OP t1_iwpfyfa wrote
Yeah i agree. At the moment they are purely a recruitment platform. I kinda like the concept of potentially becoming a professional network but they never did.
diogo_ao OP t1_iwpgqyi wrote
What's the Instagram facebook path you mention? What do you envision?
peolothegreat t1_iwpj7l6 wrote
I envision what is already happening to LinkedIn, that is that less relevant content is shared, in favour of personal stuff (e.g. pictures of vacations), political opinions, etc. Basically the transition from "let's talk about x" to "let's talk about me".
[deleted] t1_iwpqd1j wrote
It's one of the tools we use in the US to ensure compliance.
Larcecate t1_iwpz54g wrote
If you haven't looked for a job in 6 years, you aren't getting paid what you're worth.
diogo_ao OP t1_iwvhbd5 wrote
If recruiters use it and no one does, soon it will seem an empty pool
jormungandrsjig t1_ix3kh0v wrote
> As a LinkedIn user since 2007, I can confidently say that it's become more annoying than ever. It didn't used to be this way. I don't even go there anymore. > > > > If it isn't dying, maybe it should. It's no longer useful.
I haven't logged in since 2017. I was surprised my account wasn't deleted for inactivity. Most of the people I had on there are senior managers and above. Seems like it's an echo chamber now where you reshare links from on r/technews. Seems pointless now and I probably won't login again for another five years.
makesyoudownvote t1_ix4ftb5 wrote
Was linkedin ever alive?
It always seemed to me like they were always on life support.
OswaldReuben t1_iwlv7dr wrote
LinkedIn isn't dying, it's as annoying as ever.
Agree?