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thruster_fuel69 t1_iwhhuik wrote

There's no rules in capitalism that say groups can't form and cooperate internally in whichever way makes the most profit for the group. If this model produces a good amount of value, it will be adopted. That's just how it works 🤷‍♂️

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Southern-Trip-1102 t1_iwis4so wrote

It doesn't matter if you are theoretically allowed to do anything when the bottom 80% only have 7% of the capital. The real world doesn't care about theoretical possibilities but does about real disadvantages.

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thruster_fuel69 t1_iwisfdv wrote

The real world also provides more goods and services to help you build and run a business. It's really just lack of effort in most cases..

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Southern-Trip-1102 t1_iwiyats wrote

Sorry but that simply isn't the case. Capital availability is what allows you to even attempt providing those things.

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thruster_fuel69 t1_iwiyl4p wrote

And who brings the capital, really? The people first, then the investors. I'm no business prof. but creating a good product at a fair price is still the best way to get ahead. People just suck at scaling, but why cry about it..

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Southern-Trip-1102 t1_iwizkwj wrote

Workers build capital, workers build the cnc machines, they build the mining drills, they build the computers, workers are the source of capital, capitalists are just parasites.

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thruster_fuel69 t1_iwizs05 wrote

Unrelated but I agree, just with a tweak: theyre beneficial parasites, when shit works. Basic labor isn't basic any more, the world needs smart people building smart shit.

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Southern-Trip-1102 t1_iwj0137 wrote

The hell are you talking about? They are unsessary, managers who are workers do everything a capitalist would anyways.

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thruster_fuel69 t1_iwj0edr wrote

Those exist, hence the classifier "when shit works". In a dysfunctional environment those types are attracted and benefit well, causing what really looks like a disease.

Managers who shield their team from team-based mandatories can be very useful, if the goals are clear and culture is good. If it's all shit already though, it'll be infighting anyway, manager and everyone else.

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flyswithdragons t1_iwhzcta wrote

That's cronyism, real free, markets require heavy regulations to prevent fraud and monopolies .. this is why the Nordic countries are rated more capitalist than the USA.

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