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Donotaskmedontellme t1_ivpvw2w wrote

Reply to comment by DicknosePrickGoblin in 3D-printed weapons: Interpol and defense experts warn of ‘serious’ evolving threat by mossadnik

I guess you don't know how easy to manufacture ammo is.

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Advanced-Payment-358 t1_ivqgd9d wrote

I don't know, and I would like to know. I have been researching the topic for quite a long time now, and manufacturing a reliable, consistent quality cased ammo with primer and propellant is very difficult. You can write theory how you can "just do some NC and reload and shoot", but it's far, far from that.

Something that may occasionally go off and shoot a low powered projectile does not count.

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Donotaskmedontellme t1_ivqgnf1 wrote

Cased ammo is pretty difficult but only because of the primer. If you don't intend to reload or go any bigger than 5.56 then 3d printed plastic casings are serviceable, but for a muzzle loader there's recipes online for black powder from scratch, and lead can easily be melted into a mold for shot.

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Advanced-Payment-358 t1_ivqhbbx wrote

https://www.reddit.com/r/reloading/comments/yjht7t/diy_primer_cupping_tool_is_probably_mostly_ready/

https://www.reddit.com/r/reloading/comments/xqjf17/are_there_reasons_why_modern_primer_anvils_are/

I am actually pretty involved in the subject. Also, I won't care about muzzle loaders, they were phased out for obvious reasons and would be of little effect in modern day, melee weapons would likely be better option.

BP does not suit automatic weapons, and it's 1/3 of NC power.

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SouthEasternGuy t1_ivsk4rc wrote

The gun that killed Shinzou Abe was a muzzle loader so don’t necessarily discount how effective they can be. For posterity reasons, I do not recommend killing anyone at all, ideally no one dies even in self defense but the world isn’t like that. Please use gun knowledge responsibly

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Advanced-Payment-358 t1_ivtuerp wrote

Like I stated, assassination is another matter compared to combat or self defense. If you get one shot and miss it, you are essentially going full melee. With automatic gun, you have a lot bigger margin of error.

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Sqwill t1_ivpy4o5 wrote

More difficult than making a gun that's for sure.

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gh0stwriter88 t1_ivrzr7t wrote

Depends on the ammo.... black powder or even absorbic acid based propellant isn't hard.

Its also less demanding on the weapon... but also results in a more clumsy weapon (like most BP weapons) fouling, greasing etc...

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hidude398 t1_ivzouqc wrote

There’s a DIY smokeless project coming out this year, but also a BWA guide that talks about where to find and scavenge smokeless.

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hidude398 t1_ivzoqul wrote

Easier, honestly.

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Sqwill t1_ivzq8qg wrote

Not sure what’s easier than two pipes from the hardware store but ok.

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hidude398 t1_ivzsn19 wrote

Oh, I was thinking of making something complicated like a 9mm PCC. If you’re making a pipe shotgun though, making electrically ignited black powder cartridges is dead simple.

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