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Fantastic-Climate-84 t1_it411q9 wrote

Reply to comment by ItsAConspiracy in The End of Moore’s Law: Silicon computer chips are nearing the limit of their processing capacity. But is this necessarily an issue? Copenhagen Institute for Futures Studies by CPHfuturesstudies

Now you’re just being dishonest.

> As for phones, I have an iPhone 6s and my girlfriend has a 13, and they’re not all that different.

Really? Really.

> But sure, people are still engineering clever new things.

And what handles the computations and functions those new things? The absolute powerhouses that sit in our pockets — well, not yours, but other pockets.

Again, that you could say that you barely had enough money, but we’re buying a new computer/processor/gpu every two years — because that’s what it was to keep up from the 2000s to about 2016 — tells me you’re not being honest.

I’m hopping off this comment train.

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ItsAConspiracy t1_it44kxf wrote

I didn't say I bought a new computer every two years. I said people with money did. Doesn't mean I sat around being depressed about it. I was still super excited to see it all happening, and I got to experience it when we upgraded at work, in addition to the few upgrades I managed at home.

And all this is a side issue to that measly 3.5% annual improvement we have now.

But please, yes, hop off, this is getting unpleasant.

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Fantastic-Climate-84 t1_it45vok wrote

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/the-short-and-intriguing-history-of-v-16-and-w-16-engines/

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ItsAConspiracy t1_it5362d wrote

Yeah that's great, but that's just regular technological progress. Of course that will continue. That's not the same as Moore's Law, which was a doubling of performance every 18 to 24 months over a long period of time. If there had been a Moore's Law for cars, they'd get millions of miles per gallon by now.

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Fantastic-Climate-84 t1_it5554g wrote

The point was that, even with pistons, adding more doesn’t mean better performance.

It’s no doubt you don’t see a difference when you’re still using tech that’s almost a decade old. Try keeping up, and you’ll notice a difference.

That said, crazy that your MacBook and phone are still working and able to be used, hey? Sure is rough for the consumer these days. Couldn’t use a ten year old computer back in 2008, let alone a phone.

Bleeding edge cuts both ways. Ai, drones, tablets replacing laptops, laptops replacing desktops, phones being the bulk of where we compute, but you’re still complaining.

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ItsAConspiracy t1_it5ejgn wrote

Sure there's a difference. But in terms of sheer compute it's still just 3.5% annually, according to OP's article. That's not Moore's Law. Tech progress continues but Moore's Law is still dead until we get a whole new chip tech. It's not complaining to just recognize reality.

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