el_gee OP t1_is5ftqj wrote on October 13, 2022 at 1:11 PM

Reply to comment by Lootcifer- in Rise of delivery robots leaves drivers fearful of job losses | Context by el_gee

Not disagreeing that change has to come, but gig jobs seem to be one of the areas where a lot of new hiring is coming. So if those are the jobs that go away, won't that have a really bad impact? Though as other people point out, it's unlikely to happen very soon, so there's still time to figure out where people will land, I guess...

Lootcifer- t1_is5grp0 wrote on October 13, 2022 at 1:19 PM

The thing is that these jobs have so little return that the corporations exploit the workers so much to get their money back a lot of the time and it becomes a very toxic and demeaning job. I cant see the future so idk what other jobs in the future could pop up that would help these people migrate from one gig job to another but from what I understand, ultimately this model is not economically sustainable for businesses without making it more expensive which then would make dinners cost more than double. Already you pay like more than 50% of the cost sometimes

el_gee OP t1_is5h4y3 wrote on October 13, 2022 at 1:21 PM

That's true. There was a really good post I read on here that was by a Deliveroo rider in London, and you can see over the years how the experience changed and became a lot worse.

And that's when VC funding is still propping things up and hiding a lot of problems with business models. It can only get worse over time.

loboMuerto t1_is5rt6q wrote on October 13, 2022 at 2:39 PM

And yet, people freely choose to use those expensive services and people choose to work for them; sometimes they are the last barrier before panhandling.

Would you like to have that option removed from their lives because you don't like it?

ShittyBeatlesFCPres t1_is9492i wrote on October 14, 2022 at 5:03 AM

That’s actually an economic fallacy. It’s called the “Luddite fallacy” after the people who resisted the Industrial Revolution. Disruptive technologies do obviously create winners and losers and the adjustments can be painful and, if painful enough, cause political instability. But people eventually find new and more productive (often thanks to new technology) jobs and society as a whole almost always ends up better off.

Not to minimize the pain of the adjustments. If I lose my career because of some new technology, I’m gonna be pissed. But it’s happened throughout human history and we haven’t run out of jobs to do yet.