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Unclehooptiepie t1_iry6nfe wrote

Reply to comment by spoollyger in China’s Electric Trucks May Well Pull Forward Peak Oil Demand by PeteWenzel

It's literally true. I'm all for electric and I hate that the right wing uses the fact the f150 gets shit mileage towing as some checkmate agaist electric but it is fact. What's also fact is that most people who own half tons rarely ever tow so for most its not a issue. Once prices come down I would love to have one.

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spoollyger t1_iry71sd wrote

I wonder if gas vehicles lose range when towing?

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sanitarystapler t1_iry8r1g wrote

They do. Though I usually get more than 50 percent of the normal range, I also slow down quite a bit for stability.

The real issue is this. You can carry more energy in the gas/diesel truck and fill it up in 5-10 minutes. If I'm towing a car or whatever I'm not on a sight seeing vacation where I want to hang out for 30 minutes to an hour every 150 miles.

That's such a specific use though. Currently I borrow or rent a truck to do it. I do see electric trucks making sense for in town deliveries. Which is all stop and go so it will also make the biggest difference there.

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spoollyger t1_irybzpb wrote

I feel like you may benefit from renting a Tesla and trying out the charging yourself. 10-15 min charges are more than enough to top up 50-75% and gain roughly 400km range. Enough time to grab a coffee, or in my experiment while on holiday, watch a Netflix show with my partner while we waited. It really wasn’t that bad. Especially when you are waking up every day with 100% charge. Sure, towing will reduce range and yeah, you will REALLY want a long range model if you are towing. But then general consensus of how long it takes to charge is being blown up a little. You don’t need to charge to 100% and in most cases you’ll never want too. That last 15% will take 3-4 times longer to charge than the first 50%. So micro charging every 200-300kms is just fine and that’ll take around 10mins.

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sanitarystapler t1_iryft3h wrote

I like electric cars. Wish I could afford one for the small amount I drive in town. A solo would currently meet my needs much more than a tesla though.

I was specifically talking about towing longer distances.. Just go ahead and cut the distance the energy should carry you in half. Also tesla states their fast charger does 200mi in 15 minutes. So Instead of a 4 minute fill (gas pumps are limited to 10gpm), I'm looking at 15 minutes for 1/3 of capability in distance. (figuring a mid size truck with a 36 gallon tank would get 8-12 mpg towing)

Once again, when I'm towing I'm not there to watch Netflix and drink coffee. I would still rather rent a ic vehicle.

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Unclehooptiepie t1_irzp3x8 wrote

That's also with lacking infrastructure to charge. If the world goes electric rather than hydrogen I know charging stations won't be an issue but currently depending on where you live it may be. Two years ago i bought a new car and it will be my last ICE daily driver.

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