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Goldenslicer t1_irxcinj wrote

Why are you lying to me, article?

>Greece: How much of the country’s energy comes from fossil fuels?

> 2021: 79.84%

I stand corrected. The country's electricity consumption accounts for 19.0% of total energy consumption. So it is entirely plausible that the electric grid is 100% renewable yet 80% of the country's energy comes from fossil fuels.

Which is kind of a sobering thought really. That even if we sourced all our electricity from renewables, we are far from done...

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tnorbosu t1_irxgl2y wrote

Energy is not electricity. A country's total energy counts the gas for its cars and planes, its fuel for heating, its coal for steelmaking. All this is saying is that their power grid was 100% renewable

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Goldenslicer t1_irxkfsd wrote

This would make sense if at most 20% of the country's energy consumption is in the form of electricity.

Is it? I actually don't know.

Edit: crap. It is. Using my own source. In 2021, the country consumed 293 TWh of energy, of which, 55.78 TWh was electricity which comes out to 19.0% of total energy being in the form of electricity.

I stand corrected.

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Still_Study_6059 t1_is01frq wrote

Yeah, it's still a leap to go to completely renewable energy. I've fallen into that trap as well in the past. Oh, 100% renewable electricity is near, that's problem solved then. But then someone pointed out that energy =/= electricity.

Some upsides though, even a legacy carmaker like Mercedes thinks in 2025 we'll have price parity between EV and ICE-cars. In Europe there's a massive push to heating our homes with heat-pumps, I think I can get 30% or something like that back from my government on the purchase of one. New houses here aren't even connected to the gas-grid anymore. We've got incentives for all sorts of insulation too.

My countries government aims for a sort of double or triple punch where you get your house insulated to the point where you can heat it with a heat-pump and on top of that you feed your heat-pump with solar energy if possible.

I think at the moment where I live industry is the biggest challenge with regards to them going green.

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webs2slow4me t1_is0ainh wrote

Yea the company that I work for is looking into it and it is nearly impossible to make our plants run on 100% renewables unless we get renewables from the power grid and for the utility company to deliver that it will take some truly massive projects.

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Christosconst t1_iryzf6w wrote

Transportation which is the biggest energy cost is going 100% electric after 2030 based on EU targets

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sunsparkda t1_irzdrk4 wrote

>Which is kind of a sobering thought really. That even if we sourced all our electricity from renewables, we are far from done...

Given that plans for carbon neutrality stretch out decades, not years, it'd be kind of shocking if we weren't still a good long ways from being done.

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