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Tacky-Terangreal t1_iruxb9k wrote

Reply to comment by Tupcek in Solar Rollout Rouses Resistance in Europe’s Countryside: Regulations meant to protect green space block the installation of solar panels despite soaring energy prices by CannoliIntoPussy

Oh yeah and solar panels are built only to the highest ethical standards. Those Chinese kids mining that lithium took pride in their work goddammit! Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m taking a ride in my Tesla you peasants

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netz_pirat t1_irv2m1h wrote

Solar panels made out of lithium?

Yeah, sure.

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ISpikInglisVeriBest t1_irv51mr wrote

Solar is useless without lithium batteries for storage, but I think they meant cobalt in this case

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netz_pirat t1_irv9ngd wrote

No it's not. For grid level stora, there are plenty of options without lithium. Redox flow, or iron/air comes to mind.

Also, if we cover daytime use with solar, we've already covered quite a big chunk of our energy useage.

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Tupcek t1_iruyipx wrote

well, one doesn’t destroy environment for hundreds of years

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Optix334 t1_irv2b77 wrote

Lithium mining literally does permanent harm to the area and is incredibly toxic, with those toxins dumped just like anything else.

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Tupcek t1_irv3vvv wrote

permanent harm to the area? All I found is that main concern in lithium mining is that it needs a lot of water and that’s all

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Optix334 t1_irztxpj wrote

It makes Soil unusable and pollutes water sources with heavy metals while making the air around the area physically harmful to breather.

Then refining it is one of the more toxic processes of all metal refining.

You didn't try to find anything. Even just reading the Wikipedia page gives you more credible sources on the damage it causes, and its obviously way more than "It uses lots of water". Come on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impacts_of_lithium-ion_batteries

Like did you read the first couple sentences and skip the "many accounts of dead animals and ruined farms in the surrounding areas of many of these mines. In Tagong, a small town in Garzê Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture China, there are records of dead fish and large animals floating down some of the rivers near the Tibetan mines. After further investigation, researchers found that this may have been caused by leakage of evaporation pools that sit for months and sometimes even years"?

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[deleted] t1_irv4pgi wrote

Sounds like you are poorly informed and confused.

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