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CondeBK t1_ironpqf wrote

As long as these resources can mined from the Earth, nobody will mine for them in space. They are virtually useless to the Earth economy.

But do you know who would benefit enormously from asteroid mining? People who are already living in space, the moon, space habitats or Mars. The problem of course, is that no such population exists at the moment. The only way to break this chicken/egg conundrum is to massively invest in getting people to live in space. It seems like a lot of money in the short term, but over the long term it would pay for itself many times over as more and more industries move off the earth. Then we can figure out how to bring those resources back down to earth.

So someone has got to go first.

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Equivalent-Ice-7274 t1_irp4i4m wrote

Why would anyone want to live in space when they could achieve a similarly miserable life by living in a submarine at the bottom of the ocean, or a frozen wasteland on earth? Space mining is a long way off.

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DasGutYa t1_irs8ypz wrote

We could send the homeless up there. Free home but it's in space?

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teratogenic17 t1_irscdff wrote

I just hacked your bank account and planted false stories about your reputation. Now you're homeless. Would you like to freeze in a stuffy can and work alone for a few years, to pay for your sins?

Of course, I have done no such thing. But the homeless have similar stories. The biggest story is that we have been tricked into letting a super-rich class suck our lifeblood forever. Capitalism is a curse.

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DasGutYa t1_irsyi5s wrote

'I don't like jokes or any form of entertainment so I'm just going to insert my political opinion here instead'

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teratogenic17 t1_irsz703 wrote

Jokes at the expense of the homeless are cheap, punching down. I don't find them funny.

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DasGutYa t1_irt11i8 wrote

Thinking morality is necessary to a joke just reinforces the fact you don't understand what one is.

Enjoy being ignored!

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teratogenic17 t1_irt3ls6 wrote

On the contrary, justice is essential to a good joke, as it releases the tension we feel with our oppressors. It reduces their power over us, and strengthens social ties; that's why (e.g.) making fun of Ivanka Trump's incompetency is funny. Just think of the blank look in her eyes when someone uses a word like "precarity" or "hegemony." Suddenly she looks like a cornered rabbit.

Punching down functions to release the tension of compassion instead--we feel uncomfortable with a group that needs relief from the oppression that we participate in and/or profit from. Such jokes fuel rage and violence.

That's why Dave Chappelle will soon be forgotten--he makes jokes that encourage hatred against Black transgender women. It's embarrassing, and should be. People who are laughing with him now will "forget" they ever did, within a decade.

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DasGutYa t1_irv1hxq wrote

'Justice'

'oppression'

Relative terms, a decade won't be kind to you as you slowly find out how easily you are labelled the oppressor in need of justice.

Respect yourself and have an original, critical thought for once in your life.

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makoivis t1_irowbbh wrote

Here’s a big question: why live in space? Space is amazingly inhospitable so unless you’re doing something that cannot be done on earth, it’s just not worth it.

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CondeBK t1_irp2vbq wrote

The argument goes that unless humans become an interplanetary species they are at risk of extinction through an asteroid impact, a bad plague, nuclear war, climate change, etc..

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dern_the_hermit t1_irpwj0b wrote

Almost anywhere can be made hospitable with the proper infrastructure and equipment, tho. Why leave the savanna and gradually migrate to the inhospitable Arctic? Heck, why even climb down from the trees and step out onto the savanna to begin with?

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makoivis t1_irq7irl wrote

I want you to ponder that question for a good long while and really meditate on it.

Why indeed? What advantage did it bring?

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dern_the_hermit t1_irq81l1 wrote

Flip side: Why not? What else are we going to do with the wild environment-shaping technological powers we possess?

Them's a couple more questions to add to your meditations.

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makoivis t1_irq89fa wrote

We could start with addressing climate change on earth, that seems like a good use of said wild powers.

But again, ponder why people migrate. Hint: food availability plays a huge part. How’s food availability in space?

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dern_the_hermit t1_irq8fow wrote

> We could start with addressing climate change on earth

The two aren't anywhere close to mutually exclusive. What a weird retort.

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makoivis t1_irq8k88 wrote

This discussion would make more sense if you’d engage with any of the points I’m making. This is pretty tiresome.

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dern_the_hermit t1_irq8rhd wrote

I literally just directly engaged with a point you made, but okay.

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Codydw12 t1_iru6nvs wrote

At the moment it's nonexistent. Key part there is at the moment. Should technologies such as verticle farming and hydroponics take off in the coming years/decades we could very see cities dedicate skyscrapers to growing crops as well as said technology being used to attempt space grown crops.

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