ATR2400 t1_irpawxe wrote on October 10, 2022 at 12:19 AM

Reply to comment by stonebraker13 in Podcast: the search for extraterrestrial intelligent life is now looking for "technosignatures" like pollution by asbruckman

Fossil fuels or something similar are likely going to be involved the development of any serious civilization at some point. It took a long time for renewables and nuclear to come along. And those advances in technology were only made because of a civilization powered by fossil fuels.

[deleted] t1_irpglz3 wrote on October 10, 2022 at 1:04 AM

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stonebraker13 t1_irqnebp wrote on October 10, 2022 at 8:45 AM

Lol ..you do know dinosaurs are Terran creatures and there are plenty of evolutionary paths that don't involve the destruction of your home planet and resources. Just like all life experiences are not the same neither would social evolution appear the same. That thinking is what caused Indian boarding schools and pogroms in Europe.

CriticalUnit t1_irrf8cy wrote on October 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM

> dinosaurs

Not all fossil fuels are dinos, most aren't in fact.

stonebraker13 t1_irs8wzy wrote on October 10, 2022 at 5:22 PM

Thanks! Interestingly, the fiction about dinosaurs was to help people think that oil was natural and safe. Just like they now want it to be seen as safe and natural so now they are telling us it's made from for real- phytoplankton and microscopic marine life cooked by pressure and sediment. They are telling us the truth NOW, because the term "fossil fuel" is now toxic. They are again trying to make us trust it better, it's safe, right?..lol.

ATR2400 t1_irspq0v wrote on October 10, 2022 at 7:15 PM

I specifically mentioned civilization. Yes if it’s just big lizards you won’t find a ton of pollutants but if they’re intelligent they’ll likely have made use of fossil fuels for at least a little while until they achieved the technological advancement needed to invent and mass manufacture clean energy tech.

Effective solar panels are a whole lot more complicated to develop and manufacture than simply setting coal on fire

stonebraker13 t1_irsw724 wrote on October 10, 2022 at 7:59 PM

Exactly....they saw the destructive bend of the substance and they moved forward. We on the other hand have had technology to use solar panels to collect enough energy from the sun for satellites in space millions of miles from the sun to soak up energy to operate the satellite for over 50 years, but we can't use that tech in our homes, cause of economics? They couldn't make money from us? So we just keep using technology that destroys life...all for nothing