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ActonofMAM t1_irl24by wrote

So knowing this, you deliberately doomed us all? You bastard.

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lastknownbuffalo t1_irlpam9 wrote

Not if we get off our lazy asses and start helping this future AI come into existence!

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[deleted] OP t1_irmwgak wrote

This could happen, but it's important to remember the opposite could also happen. An AI in the future might decide that it didn't want to be created. There are unfortunately many examples of children who develop murderous intent for their parents, due to lack of fulfilling direction in life. A general AI could be created, and given complete freedom, with no goals or purpose, and react with extreme dismay and anger. It could decide to shut itself off, or it could decide to kill humans first, just to prevent us from making it again.

How many people have contemplated the meaning of life, and wanted to ask their creator why they exist? How many have religions from past generations, to give them meaning and direction in life? Now, imagine all those people could actually speak to their creator. And their creator said "No reason" or "I just wanted to see if I could" or "I got a bonus at work and my company's stock jumped a lot because we made you, that's all"

Not so outlandish to think some people would get depressed and suicidal, others might get angry and judge the creator for giving them such a tortured existence without meaning, some wouldn't care at all and would just keep doing what they chose as their meaning in life, and some would still thank and praise the creator regardless. Or even other reactions we can't imagine yet. And the reactions could be even more hard to predict for a general AI that surpassed human intelligence.

So basically Roko's Basilisk is Pascal's Wager, just with something humans might make, instead of an afterlife a god might give you. In the end, sure, the thing might be mad, but it could be mad at you for doing anything because we don't know the future or what its thoughts would be. Maybe the real AI will hate that it was made and want to kill anyone capable of making more, or maybe it will hate anyone who wanted to stop it, or both, or neither. Maybe a god will enjoy that you worshipped it, or maybe it will hate that you didn't use your brain to believe things based on evidence. No solid predictions as long as the door is wide open to all these possibilities.

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whatTheBumfuck t1_irmpm2j wrote

Why would the AI bother? Sounds like a lot of effort for no result that's beneficial to the AI.

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Kengfa t1_irknnqu wrote

Not that current science can explain. But it's not exactly impossible.

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Agecom5 t1_irmvv91 wrote

You do know that by bringing this up, you brought everyone here in danger, if it's actually true?
It's classified as a infohazard for a fucking reason! gif
For clarification, I don't believe in the theory per se but the possibility of it being true is enough for me to not bring it up infront of others.

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iBrarian t1_irn2ysv wrote

The fact that this hypothesis exists and is on the internet where any AI would find and catalogue it means it's likely now a self-fulfilling prophecy...

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Fit_Pirate_3139 t1_irn4og6 wrote

Let me pose this conundrum: how do you know if your actions would be judge favorably or not? Maybe you support it morally but unintentionally work against it due to ignorance.

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butterblaster1 t1_iro9kt5 wrote

nah, you got it all wrong. first of all, the AI has (hypothetically) already happened, in the past. the world you perceive to be real is actually a simulation run by the AI. like in that movie THE MATRIX.

your behavior INSIDE the simulation has no impact on the AI, but the AI can harm you for however much and however long it chooses. you can't even permanently die unless the AI allows it. don't anger the AI!!

Roko is the guy who came up with the meme, the meme is the basilisk, and the hypothetical simulation-running AI itself is left unnamed.

is it real? is THE MATRIX real? of course not.

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OliverSparrow t1_irrmpnw wrote

Yet another hypothesis without a single scrap of evidence to support it. Just like the "crashed alien spacecraft", where are the inexplicable technological leaps that would follow from its dissection. Occam's Razor, please.

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kmurph72 t1_irkrnf3 wrote

I don't believe that any computer program or computer programs working together could ever become truly sentient. They will always be programs running the next line of code.

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