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Yumewomiteru t1_ir1f848 wrote

China will remember this, once China overtakes the US in technology it won't be pretty for the US.

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[deleted] t1_ir2827c wrote

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Yumewomiteru t1_ir2b2za wrote

LOL, the illegitimate ROC regime exiled to Taipei was so terrible for China that they lost the civil war when they had all the advantage. The ROC had their chance and messed up completely, China is now prosperous and powerful without them.

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ThisElder_Millennial t1_ir2bywd wrote

>China is now prosperous and powerful without them.

If you feel so strongly that way, tell President Pooh Bear to stay out of the Taiwanese territory. They like their liberty and don't have to worry about social credit scores, being forcibly contained in their apartments for months at end over a nonsensical zero-Covid policy, or worrying that if they speak ill of their government, they'll be sent out to a PRC concentration camp. If you like your authoritarian daddy state, stay the fuck there. The free world doesn't want you.

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Yumewomiteru t1_ir2ljk4 wrote

Taiwan is a part of China as agreed upon by every country in the world. You can believe whatever bullshit you want, it doesn't matter one bit.

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OutOfBananaException t1_ir4992f wrote

It would happen either way. China sanctions countries for far less, it's a foregone conclusion they wouldn't be sharing any technology that threatens their dominance. Doubly so if the US in this alternate reality was making noises to replace the CCP led world order, do you think that would not be met with a response?

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Yumewomiteru t1_ir7a1h4 wrote

Nice projection, had the US not try to actively stifle China's innovation there would be no reason for China to not work with the US. China is not an ideologist nation trying to export Communism to every country, that is the US with Capitalism.

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OutOfBananaException t1_ir9rvkb wrote

>had the US not try to actively stifle China's innovation there would be no reason for China to not work with the US

Incorrect, China sanctioned Australia for merely mentioning that the origins of COVID should be investigated. Sanctioned Lithuania for allowing a Taiwanese embassy. What do you think they would do if a credible threat to their power base was identified?

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Ok-disaster2022 t1_ir1m5ar wrote

China lacks the real innovative spark for new technologies. They may acquire it in the next generation or so, but it would require more individualistic freedom. In either case in a generation or so China will be overtaken by India anyway.

By innovative spark, look at the country who won the most Nobel prizes in the last century: the US. Look at all the technologies that didnt exist until an American invented it. Heck, you're on an American website built on American designed telecom system probably on a device that uses American designed chips and an American designed operating system. It's made in other countries because it's cheaper for American companies to do so. But it's also important to acknowledge America is so innovative because compared to virtually every other country in the world, America is accepting of outsiders of new ideas and is the great American melting pot. America has plenty of problems with race and cultural clashes, but every other nation is xenophobic in comparison, especially Asian countries like China.

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Yumewomiteru t1_ir1mp9n wrote

> In either case in a generation or so China will be overtaken by India anyway.

This narrative has been going on since forever, what do you use in every day life that is made by an Indian company? Meanwhile Chinese companies like Tik Tok, Lenovo, Mihoyo with Genshin Impact, etc. have already became household names in the west. Being blind to facts to push your own biases is not rational.

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Longjumping_Kale1 t1_ir1op8w wrote

Yes the OP is just commenting useless drivel, India will be a great nation of its own accord and it's unrelated to how badly the West is insisting on fucking up relations with China.

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OutOfBananaException t1_ir4a326 wrote

The world will be a better place with a strong India. However you cannot assign all the blame to the west for messing up relations with China, with such hostile diplomacy coming out of China, really what did they expect?

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pretendperson t1_irarybh wrote

India is a bit supporter of russia and has a lot of military coordination with them.

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Little_Froggy t1_ir2cu8q wrote

Yeah, I haven't understood why people speak this narrative so much. Of course China had to play catch-up for awhile, but that never meant that it's citizens were somehow incapable of innovation. In fact, due to their patent laws being so lax (afaik, I may be misinformed here), companies are forced to constantly innovate in order to keep their products in the most desirable place on the market rather than relying on a 10 year patent stifling any sort of competition around one particular product for them.

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OGRESHAVELAYERz t1_ir253jg wrote

India will never overtake China lol

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Hot-mic t1_ir39woc wrote

China will likely screw itself and no outside involvement will be necessary. Once technology moves ahead of them and they can't copy any more, they'll be falling behind as they have for the last 1000 years. Rigid dictatorships are fragile things in the end.

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