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LastInALongChain t1_irjkphq wrote

Reply to comment by flippintfout in Who is liable for my racist robot? - Manufacturers of products that make use of artificial intelligence are liable for any eventual damage at all times. In an effort to provide users’ rights with better protection, the European Commission is tightening the AI Liability Directive. by inno_brew

>Black people do not commit way more crime. How is that even statistically possible when we are only 12% of the population

I mean, the AI would look at the relative rate of crime between population groups as part of the process of discriminating who should get a resource to maximize whatever outcome its looking for. Black people are frequently low income and urban, and are part of gangs at a higher rate for that reason. Besides the whole policing bias issue, where people are concerned about black people being over represented in stats because the police are patroling around them more often, for racist reasons, there are a lot of signs that gang violence is overrepresented and indicates an actual objective inclination towards a much higher rate of crime that will for sure come out in the data.

Murders for example are hard to cover up because you have an actual body on the ground, and the black crime rate for murder is 50X any other population, so an AI will look at that and draw conclusions. It seems unlikely that the white or asian population have 50X murders going on in secret that they just cover up really well using racist police. Doesn't mean that black people all murder, but any policy from the AI is necessarily going to discriminate against the group as a whole, unless it were to have perfect information about every individual.

I mean, that table you reference in the link says White 45% murders, black 51% murders.

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flippintfout t1_irjmvy2 wrote

>Murders for example are hard to cover up because you have an actual body on the ground, and the black crime rate for murder is 50X any other population

Where are you even getting all these made up stats. You are just regurgitating racist talking points.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

>Black people are frequently low income and urban, and are part of gangs at a higher rate for that reason.

Whites receive more welfare assistance than any other group.

https://frac.org/blog/new-usda-report-provides-picture-of-who-participates-in-snap

Latinos hold the crown for gangs and organized crime.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1025%26context%3Dmjrl&ved=2ahUKEwjwpt3CqtH6AhWPGFkFHUKqAA8QFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3UQOPcIP66I24465WuuVpF

So you were saying?

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LastInALongChain t1_irr2ya0 wrote

I mean, you linked the stats

White - 3,650 homicides - 60.1% population

Black - 4,078 homicides - 12.2% population

White -60.7 murder per percentage

Black - 334.2 murder per percentage

5X, not 50x. Sorry

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flippintfout t1_ish6yh1 wrote

You used total arrests(the first link) and not the numbers for actual murder convictions that information was in the second set of links. Either way the original numbers were grossly inflated.

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