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nomoreimfull t1_jcsq8be wrote

Reply to comment by billetea in China Built a Hypersonic Generator That Could Power Unimaginable Weapons by ethereal3xp

Since when has china ever given a shit about anyone else's intellectual property? They are the safe haven for knock-off everything. When it comes to arms race tech, no government cares either.

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First-Translator966 t1_jct5cf4 wrote

It’s literally about stealing the IP rights. Tech A is possible, they don’t know how to do it, but they publish a paper saying they made tech A. Now when MIT in collaboration with a Fortune 500 company develop tech A, they challenge it in court and they US is forced to reveal the tech.

They might even own the IP when it’s all said and done.

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lonely40m t1_jcw2j4h wrote

The USA loses 250-600 Billion dollars in IP theft every year to China.

Remember Segway? They started manufacturing plant in China, which stole their IP and made hoverboards with LEDs and a million other things and they were so wildly successful in the knockoffs that when Segway sued them for blatant IP theft, they decided to just buy Segway. Proof (Segway bought by Ninebot.)

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ac3boy t1_jdkmgow wrote

What are you talking about? China gives zero fucks about IP rights. The US would also not reveal shit to them either when it comes to game-changing energy sources that could power our new military endeavors like optical weapons, energy weapons, etc.

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First-Translator966 t1_jdlhdsw wrote

I’m talking about a way to steal the IP through our own legal system. Basically, they patent something even if they don’t have a working prototype, force a US company to reveal how they did it through a lawsuit, and then steal it.

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billetea t1_jcsql25 wrote

Well said on stealing IP, but they can block IP development in the West with BS scientific journal submissions..

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nomoreimfull t1_jcsr1dv wrote

Cute. I am aghast the us, or any other nation, extends them the courtesy of protection considering the aforementioned reputation. With decent ai, I am going to imagine a world where articles of this type are churned out to hyperinflate the market with nonsense claims in an arms race resulting in the death of the pier reviewed system.

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billetea t1_jcstvqs wrote

It's going to be a real issue.. if you are developing say some new tech and you go to fund raise to commercialise it, the first thing serious investors do is get an IP lawyer to ensure there are no possible future IP claims. All these BS Chinese submissions can count as potential claims on that new tech. Now, you can sue the Chinese scientists but that requires disclosure of your own research, and investors will just run away. Net result you either end up showing them your IP for them to copy to win, or you don't get funding. Either way, they can F up whole new fields of science and development. AI probably could do too but I'm just talking China as thats as far as my knowledge extends.

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nomoreimfull t1_jcsur9s wrote

Gotcha... Well this kind of strategy sounds effective and pathetic. Does china respect the ip of other nations scientific discoveries in the same way?

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tighterfit t1_jctyi22 wrote

If you think that the US hasn’t filed thousands of patents on this(even theoretical ones) your out of your minds. This is all military posturing. Just like Russia and China’s hypersonic missiles that no one has seen outside of their militaries.

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billetea t1_jcub6xg wrote

I agree to a point.

In terms of the hypersonic missiles, they do... it's just that the media isn't savvy enough to realise anything ballistic is also hypersonic. SpaceX Rockets are hypersonic. The point with "hypersonic" missiles is their ability to manoeuvre and cruise around the globe. Those the Russians and Chinese do not have yet... we do.

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