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GwynbleiddSilver t1_jeekmsk wrote

I guess it would be nice if it can be used for other applications and it's safer for the environment, but we need to move away from lithium batteries.

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Beyond-Time t1_jeeo9ue wrote

Sure, what is your proposed alternative and how will it be comparable to current technology?

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CaptainToker t1_jeesko9 wrote

Ev bikes use a really small fraction of lithium compared to ev cars, and are super efficient and have enough torque to pull trailers. But car manufacturers don't want you to know that.

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Beyond-Time t1_jeeuqro wrote

In their current state, you aren't pulling any significant amount of weight any significant distance in any reasonable time with that. Not to knock EV bikes, I think they're great. But this isn't that move away from lithium that other other guy spoke about. If this process is as good as the article states it to be, then we might never really need to move away from lithium for a very long time.

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Necoras t1_jeew6yg wrote

Sodium batteries are an interesting upcoming technology. Should be interesting to see how they compare once they hit the market.

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Beyond-Time t1_jeeyazm wrote

Yes, I think that and vanadium batteries, if feasible and combined with nuclear base load energy, can change the entire energy landscape as far as large scale storage is concerned. Slightly hopeful.

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ahecht t1_jef0kv4 wrote

Vanadium is more toxic than lithium.

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Beyond-Time t1_jef0umz wrote

Very obviously it would be contained. Vanadium is just one of the projects that can pan out, albeit expensive. Other forms would be preferable.

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GwynbleiddSilver t1_jeeorqx wrote

Well there's tons of research and development on that front, go and investigate it yourself.

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Beyond-Time t1_jeeoznr wrote

Lol. You can't even provide for your assertion. I already know the answer so it's ok ; )

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GwynbleiddSilver t1_jeepxwh wrote

Lol, like I even need to on Reddit, ok buddy

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plumberoncrack t1_jeesmmx wrote

Imagine if scientists were like this... "I had this awesome discovery, but I won't tell anyone even the first thing about it, go study the topic yourself". Science and progress are about sharing, on the micro and macro scales.

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GwynbleiddSilver t1_jeeubnr wrote

Get real man, imagine if scientists relied on Reddit for discoveries. There's appropriate forums for that type of discourse and this ain't it. Don't come on here expecting everything to spoon fed to you and then try to criticize and demean someone for not providing you answers like you're entitled to anything on here. Get off your high horse and stop being a condescending snob.

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grundar t1_jef5cq1 wrote

> we need to move away from lithium batteries.

Why?

The dominant lithium producer is Australia, which produces via standard hard-rock mining, so producing most lithium is no more harmful than any other developed-world mine.

Compared to the 7,500 Mt of coal mined per year and 4,200 Mt of oil extracted per year, mining 0.1Mt of lithium is not an urgent environmental or social issue.

(In case you were thinking about cobalt, LFP batteries use no cobalt and will reach 50% market share in the next few years.)

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