Submitted by JayR_97 t3_1231hbt in Futurology
Skudge_Muffin t1_jdxyrqm wrote
Reply to comment by LongjumpingBottle in Why are humanoid robots so hard? by JayR_97
>Can a quadruped operate a fork lift, cook a meal
... Robotic quadrupeds? Yeah, why not?
>flying? will just assume ur joking wit that one
Why? Flight is a pretty useful ability to have and we have consumer-level flying robots already.
>As for the other ideas, great ideas tbh, just a little too sci-fi atm.
Do we not already have expanding flexible robotic muscles?
>evolution slander is also a dumb take
It isn't slander, it's a fact of the matter. Evolution doesn't "care" about efficiency. It doesn't care about anything. Evolution is the propagation of genes within an environment. You don't need to be the best theoretical propagator, you just need to be able to propagate at or above replacement. Essentially, our efficiency has been decided by our competition and the external factors we've faced, as well as how beneficial certain actions have been to our survival. We aren't built for deep diving because we don't really ever need to go to the bottom of the ocean.
>"bare minimum for perpetuation" resulted in a super computer that runs on the power it takes to run a light bulb
You've lost yourself to ego. That's an amazing fact for you because it's all you know. There is no objective or subjective scale to measure this achievement to, so who knows how impressive that really is? Might it be the case that, given infinite trials of human-like species, we're actually in the bottom percentile of achievement?
>Again. we're just two dummies on reddit. I defer to the people actually working on this.
Then defer to them and stop commenting on the subject. Don't bother discussing it.
>oh also Notice how you've moved the goal post btw. We've gone from specialized robots, to robots that supercede the human form in generality
You haven't proven that bipedal human-like robots are an efficient platform for an all-purpose robot. You haven't even proven that there is demand for an all-purpose robot rather than specialized robots (My phone cannot clean my living room floor, my phone cannot drive me to the store, my phone cannot mow my lawn or water my garden. My phone cannot feed my dog or function as hardware tools. Hell, I wouldn't even use my phone to program a webpage and computer science seems like one of the first things you would design a mobile computing device for.)
If you're worried about your ability to engage with this subject, that is your fear, not mine.
Edit: Also, if you want to talk about moving goalposts, you have gone from "General-purpose human bots" to "Bipedal vaguely humanoid function-fit search and rescue machines"
LongjumpingBottle t1_jdy0eyu wrote
I conclude my argument with the following
Skudge_Muffin t1_jdy2cjz wrote
Ah, thereabout comes your ego. The part that shows you're not as smart as you think you are is your thinking that a revenue number is enough to prove your competence to others. Did you stop to consider plenty of incompetent people have even more money than that? Many people got lucky on crypto, many people have rich parents. This breakdown in logical thought squarely pegs your ability to traverse ideas.
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