Rehk_135 t1_jeci2nu wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:29 AM

Humans have a need for fulfillment and meaning. Even if you don't have to work, most people will want to do...something. The alternative is the human equivalent to the rat utopia experiment.

Probably not as bad, but it's very common for people retiring to go through some depression due to feeling a lack of purpose.

What we'd end up doing? Who knows. Sports, volunteering, exploration, tending to nature, religion, spirituality, or learning for the hell of it are all plausible. I'm sure many would slip through the cracks too and end up miserable no matter what.

Good news bad news though... Good news we won't have to worry about this. Bad news is that's cause a dystopian hellscape is far more likely than a scarcity free utopia, imho.

Pickled_Doodoo t1_jee3xhu wrote on March 31, 2023 at 10:48 AM

Some people believe a resource based economy is the only way forward, someone like Jacque Fresco has been an advocate since '70 with he's The venus project for example.

Edit: he died in 2017 but tye movement is going.

Evipicc t1_jee6m2t wrote on March 31, 2023 at 11:19 AM

Those resources will be acquired, refined, manufactured, and delivered by automation. Where is this 'economy' deriving a transaction from? There will be no economy, there will simply be automatic production and people doing what they want imo.

Rehk_135 t1_jeemghq wrote on March 31, 2023 at 1:37 PM

I'm familiar with it. But it's definitely not the only way forward. Maybe the the most desirable way forward, but we definitely have the option to fuck up...and it looks like we are going down that road. Globalization at present appears to be teetering on the brink of collapse.

Pickled_Doodoo t1_jeetpca wrote on March 31, 2023 at 2:28 PM

> Globalization at present appears to be teetering on the brink of collapse.

Oh yeah definitely.

> But it's definitely not the only way forward. Maybe the the most desirable way forward,

Yeah agree not the only way, mostly still just filled with idealism albeit a very desirable outcome as you said. A shit ton needs to happen even after automation of everything is in full swing before anything like it can happen and that is not likely to happen unfortunately.

Formal-Character-640 t1_jefw86x wrote on March 31, 2023 at 6:40 PM

I agree - a dystopian hellscape is more likely if humans are no longer needed for any labor. Entertainment and hobbies will only take you so far. Even now pursuing constant entertainment or pleasure gets old quickly if you have no purpose, no goals. Humans thrive on being challenged, thrive on working to support their family, and thrive on competition among themselves. Without purpose (no matter how small or big it is) there is no humanity. Unless we regress back to primitive times and become simple like other animals whereby our only purpose to survive is to reproduce.