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VincentGrinn t1_jaqbf65 wrote

not exactly hard to be cheaper than fossil fuels, i mean the global fossil fuel industry is subsidized 16 billion dollars PER DAY, and is still more expensive than renewables

on an entirely unrelated note the global fossil fuel industry makes a profit of 6 billion dollars per day, way to go guys

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6thReplacementMonkey t1_jarhem9 wrote

This is true, but in the past it was cheaper to produce electric energy from fossil fuels. I'm talking about overall costs, including economic damage from climate change, the wars that are fought over scarce resources, wars that will be fought over scarcer resources, costs due to mass migration, collapse of ecosystems, etc. If you look at the big picture, it's going to be incredibly, unbelievably expensive to deal with our long term dependence on fossil fuels. But it's all externalized costs that someone else will have to pay in the future, until that someone is us, now.

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VincentGrinn t1_jat8xlr wrote

oh geez when you include that stuff it just becomes obscenely cheaper, now days its already cheaper just in a direct cost standpoint to use renewables

even without long term damage fossil fuels currently account for 20% of all deaths world wide(both directly and indirectly)

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