Submitted by WaterChestnutII t3_117pir1 in DIY
stupid-id t1_j9dh2ld wrote
Reply to comment by twowheeltech in How do I find these g-d studs?? by WaterChestnutII
Feel your pain. 1933 house. Not a single square anything anywhere
WestWoodworks t1_j9e1mn6 wrote
You’d be hard pressed to find a brand new house built last year that’s actually square.
Most people would be shocked at just how rough the rough framing gets.
As a GC that likes to do the framing personally, I try to keep it as square as humanly possible… it isn’t fine woodworking. But I think it should be real close. 89° - 91° is typically not going to give you too much sass at finish time.
If nothing else, it keeps my subs from bitching too much.
On a similar note… I’m constantly surprised by how few framing crews I see that don’t use an eight foot level and a power plane to dial in the final framing. Some of these novice and journeymen guys don’t even know what I’m talking about when I bring it up.
It’s sad how we went from an industry largely made up of craftsmen to a bunch of meth heads pretending to be installers. Most guys will talk a big game about being a craftsman, but their idea of level and plumb has you searching for their meth pipe.
There are still a bunch of really solid guys out here getting the good work done. But it’s so hard to find them in the sea of shitbags.
And, in my experience, shitbags do shitty work. And it shows when you see just how far shit is off square, and considered “good work” these days. Scary, if you ask me.
koalamonster515 t1_j9dusy1 wrote
Hey, that's when my house is from! And everything is weird sizes, and much of it is slightly crooked.
SandiegoJack t1_j9els7g wrote
I’ve had to stop going purely off measurements for my house when working on projects. Everything needs to be dry fit at every step.
Nothing is 90 and nothing is level.
twowheeltech t1_j9duvgx wrote
Sigh. It makes working on anything in the house super frustrating. I hate it
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