Submitted by ImJustGonnaSitHere01 t3_11a1j9g in DIY
Mysterious-Ad7019 t1_j9pcycw wrote
Depends on how much maintenance you want.
Similar side walkway here, but dropped in concrete pavers decades ago and never need to deal with mud, grass, etc. Just a clean walkway front to back.
Naturally, you'll install with a slope away from the home, and towards the front of the home so rain naturally flows towards, then under that fence door then to the curb. Against the side fence, you'll want to slope away from that, too, so the water doesn't run into the neighbors. So looking at the walkway - a slight "v" shape for the slopes.
Naturally, if the neighbor's land is sloped such that it'll dump rain at their side of the fence, you might still get too much water on your side (rain from both sides pooling on your walkway).
If they don't slope and drain properly, only way is to replace that wood fence with a concrete block wall that'll keep their water on their side. (And then instead of a wood fence lasting a decade to a few, a concrete wall that'll last many decades.)
If you have tons of rain, any drain system can help if it tends to pool in one place despite proper sloping. For extremely rainy areas, you might even need underground catch basins. And modify the gutter drain to dump water on the other aside of the fence door, ideally many feet away from the foundation, too.
Also, used to be you needed tons of digging and sand and base, but with plastic paver bases and weed liners, much quicker and easier to get a nice base for the pavers.
ImJustGonnaSitHere01 OP t1_j9pdiyy wrote
I’m trying to go no maintenance so definitely considering the pavements option but pavements need gravel base and I’m concerned about the gravel moving towards the neighbors. Will a metal or stone retaining wall be enough?
femmestem t1_j9q3p4o wrote
You can get interlocking gravel base, which will keep the gravel from migrating. It also helps you get level surface since the sides allow you to visually identify low spots.
LeKy411 t1_j9puluh wrote
You want to first direct any pooling water away from that area. Even if you do a base and pavers, if a lot of water collects its going to wash away the base and your going to get pavers that will start sinking. As for keeping the pavers retained, a concrete retainer would be best.
ImJustGonnaSitHere01 OP t1_j9r1zp7 wrote
Would a metal retainer work?
LeKy411 t1_j9rqxxy wrote
Depends on your climate. In the Midwest we get lots of thaw freeze cycles and that wreaks havoc on pavers if you don’t have a good retaining system. The metal is fine for a bit but then after a few season your pavers start to shift. Concrete works the best if it’s deep enough.
Mysterious-Ad7019 t1_j9s7eee wrote
https://www.familyhandyman.com/project/this-paver-patio-base-will-save-your-back/
Look at the photo between plastic paver vs traditional base - the point is you don't need gravel!
Mysterious-Ad7019 t1_j9s7m7x wrote
But as for the edge, you can do anything from metal to wood to bricks standing on edge embedded flush into the ground to keep the edge straight and from moving about.
Really depends on just how "muddy" and quick that ground becomes...
Mysterious-Ad7019 t1_j9s86hh wrote
But if you want to do gravel....
https://unilock.com/storage/2019/11/advanced-tech-guide-en-final-lr.pdf
That's a good reference on what you'll need underneath and to the sides...
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