Submitted by NoBoDySHeRo3000 t3_10o7z4x in DIY

Currently doing house renovation on my own property.

Because the cost of disposing of rubble is quite high, I’ve decided to re-use as many bricks as possible from walls coming down to block off doorways etc that won’t be getting used. All the old mortar and broken bricks still add up to quite a large pile of rubble that I need to dispose of.

Is there any damage in making a raised section/split level garden, and building garden planters etc, and disposing of some of the bricks and sand at the bottom of those? And filling up an old pond that won’t be used any more that will eventually be grass

I know I can’t bury plasterboard, but mortar is basically sand, and bricks get used for hardcore, so I didn’t know if this is environmentally damaging, or will cause me any other problems down the line?

I’m in the UK if that makes any difference?

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Reelplayer t1_j6d2b3c wrote

Burying bricks won't bother the ground one bit. Here is the US there is a market for used bricks. People cut them in half for wall coverings. Or make paths outdoors.

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CunningStunt_1 t1_j6d2gd7 wrote

Lol. Are you sure you aren't a builder?

You have the exact right thought process for it.

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NoBoDySHeRo3000 OP t1_j6d2py1 wrote

I’m an electrician, so I’m happy to have a go at doing bits. But this is my first go at doing any proper building work. I’ll be digging out footings at some point, so I’ll have plenty of soil to cover the rubble piles

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your_mail_man t1_j6d3db4 wrote

In the US they call that 'clean fill'. Doesn't rot or attract insects. Perfectly safe to bury.

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CunningStunt_1 t1_j6d3dhf wrote

If you take the top soil of any new build garden, it's full of rubble.

Nothing "wrong" with doing it. Just a little bit cowboy.

I'd save them and use as a sub base material for exterior paths, shed bases. That sort of thing .

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jungerfrosch t1_j6d41op wrote

Filing the pond, probably not an issue..... I would stay away from raised features though. If you(or anyone) ever decides in the future to remove them, it will be a pain in the butt to deal with.

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NoBoDySHeRo3000 OP t1_j6d42e9 wrote

The shed will be done at some point and need a new base, along with a summerhouse etc, so I’ll have plenty of use for the old bricks. I believe the mortar is no good though as hardcore because it is basically sand though, whereas hardcore needs to be more solid bits? The mortar being buried under grassy bits will be a big help though

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brock_lee t1_j6d5t9y wrote

I've seen several times, too, when they are building a new neighborhood around here they dig a pit and put up a sign saying "concrete washout". They wash out concrete mixers, dump concrete rubble, etc. They then cover this it and it gets paved over as a road or made into a lawn in a common area or something.

https://www.codot.gov/programs/environmental/water-quality/assets/images/concrete-washout-good4.jpg/@@images/image

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DriftingNorthPole t1_j6da7o9 wrote

Depends on what state you're in. I forget the exact language, but the state I'm in has a mandatory form you have to fill out when you sell that has a whole section on "buried rubble used as fill material". Doesn't matter the amount, next homeowner digs a hole to plant a tulip bulb and runs into a some chipped concrete and brick, and I didn't disclose it.......and if you do disclose, most buyers will make you remove it. Unless you're way out in the sticks and no one's going to care about a pile of brick in the back of your 40 acres.

Which led me to....every trip to the dump include 4-5 milkcrates full of chipped concrete, tile, and brick tipped into the construction waste dumpster. Took a few months, but beat the hell out of paying for a few dump truck loads.

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CommonConfusables t1_j6dne04 wrote

Why not just put them out front with “free” so that someone who needs bricks for a project can take them for you and all you have to do is leave them there?

A few reasons not to bury construction:

-it leaks into your ground water

-if you ever want to use that area of the yard for something else then you have to dig it up

-planting a garden or getting things to grow in that area will be difficult, including anything that roots.

-you could use that rubble to build something wildlife and nature will love

-future you won’t remember exactly where you buried it to dig it all up

-even if you don’t dig it up a future homeowner will have a massive pain of a project

https://dontdrinkthewater.silvrback.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-burying-rubble-in-your-backyard

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Exotic-Flight3452 t1_j6ecteo wrote

In the US most states and the EPA recognize that concrete, bricks and broken blocks from foundations are inert enough to be used as clean fill or crushed and used as aggregate.

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Sturmghiest t1_j6eiwvf wrote

Back in the eighties my parents garden was tiered using rubble from their house renovation and topped off with a foot or two of top soil.

There's now an incredibly lush and vibrant garden so it doesn't seem to have done any harm.

When I was a teen I built a pond in the garden and even though the rubble had been buried under soil for over two decades there were still voids and cavities in the rubble so it might be prudent to compact the layers as you go to maximise how much you can dispose of.

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NoBoDySHeRo3000 OP t1_j6ejl9k wrote

This is what my dad told me he did years ago in his first house. Said he built a wall and lobbed every single bit of rubbish he had into it. Everything from rubble to an old motorbike. Topped it off with soil and had a nice tiered garden once he was done.

I don’t want to be chucking any old shite in though as I’d like to at least consider the environmental impact if there was one. Hence why I won’t be burying plasterboard

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Rzah t1_j6ejumu wrote

Pop a couple of bricks in a carrier bag, leave it by the front door, when you go out take the bag and just 'forget' it on the bus etc, in a couple of months all your bricks are gone and the local neighbourhood has an interesting mystery to chat about.

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radiantxero t1_j6eoti5 wrote

just take it to your local brick and mortar store

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Birunanza t1_j6eur9u wrote

I'm doing the same thing sort of with some old concrete rubble. Making a small hill/mound for a raised herb garden. If you want to get really fancy, you can use that sort of stuff for a base for cob structures like benches or pizza ovens etc. Just be aware that thing may settle wherever you bury. The brick will degrade with time and whatever you cover it with will fill those voids. Common sense thing you probably thought about, but it's worth noting.

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NoBoDySHeRo3000 OP t1_j6ewll3 wrote

It’s £3 per rubble bag, and the nearest tip I can use is over 30 mins drive away. Will be a lot of rubble over the course of the job, enough to fill a large skip probably, but will be over the next couple of years, so actually getting a skip is no good. Hoping to get rid of bits of rubble as and when I can

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Crimkam t1_j6f352h wrote

My grandparents did this, but ended up not doing a very good job and there was a noticeable hump about a foot higher than the rest of the grass in the backyard where they buried everything for the next 40 years.... so just make sure you've got a plan to make it look nice and don't get lazy.

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salmonlikethephish t1_j6f9vw7 wrote

Could you slowly drip it into your council bin collection? I've got rid of quite a lot of stuff by adding a bit into my black bin over the course of time.

As a bonus it forces you to cut down on other waste to leave a bit of room for the "extras".

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brynnecognito t1_j6fqg8g wrote

Where I live people offer it up as clean fill and other folks will take it away to fill in old fish ponds in their yards.

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ntyperteasy t1_j6fscie wrote

I don't see any problem with this, and it's quite common in building new construction to plow under this sort of debris.

If the structure is pre-1970, I would NOT bury any bricks that have been painted, as it is likely lead paint

The thinking is that you don't want to bury things that are actually toxic, or will breakdown and become toxins, or collapse and create a low spot in your garden over time (I buried a hay bale once, I can still see the low spot in the yard). Bricks, mortar, concrete rubble don't have these problems.

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momo516 t1_j6fwszp wrote

I’m not sure about in the UK, but here in the US we have lots of places that will take your brick/mortar for free. They recycle it by crushing it down and selling it. It’s worth seeking out if that exists near you. Look for places that sell crusher run or aggregate.

And as others said, if you list it for free pickup, you’d be surprised at how much others may have a use for it. Try a buy nothing group for your area on Facebook

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PraiseTheErdtree t1_j6gnzw4 wrote

I reuse brick/mortar/rubble as fill or in low-stakes mortar just like you’re suggesting. Good idea if you ask me 😎

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NoBoDySHeRo3000 OP t1_j6gtymr wrote

I did that in my old property, but where I live now we don’t have wheelie bins, they send out plastic bags for your waste and you just leave them on the side of the road for collection. The bags aren’t very strong so risk it getting spilled all over the road or not collected at all.

I mean, I do get rid of little amounts, but it’s hardly worth it. Would take me the best part of 30 years to get rid of it that way

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NoBoDySHeRo3000 OP t1_j6gu8rg wrote

I do see people advertising hardcore (that’s what we call that stuff in the Uk) for free on things like fbook marketplace. But it’s available in abundance, so it’s not that often people actually need it

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KongaTom t1_j6lg24n wrote

When we put in a garden in our back yard, it was full of brick and mortar (an old pathway or patio that they broke up and buried)

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CommonConfusables t1_j6miu5g wrote

If it’s per bag, fill large bags.

I drive 30 minutes to dispose of rubble because it’s better than burying it.

Saving a bag in the corner of your lawn for when you do rubble will probably be unoticeable, but digging up your yard or a permanent hole to bury rubble will fuck up future plans. Don’t let lazy dictate your actions.

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