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jeffroddit t1_j22kepd wrote

Reply to comment by Guygan in 120v Extension Cord with USB outlets by HardSn0wCrash

The internet has been saying this kinda stuff for decades and it still isn't real. My insurance does not require that everything I use be UL approved, and I doubt anybody else's does either.

My insurance covers me if I get hammered and get in an wreck and kill people. And y'all think a series of UL listed devices connected together is gonna void an insurance policy? Folks build their PCs all the time, you think that will invalidate an insurance claim?

Could you be sued? Of course you can. Duh. You can be sued for NOT giving someone this awesome gift if they end up needing it to plug in some life saving doodad, but they couldn't because you never gave it to them. Anybody can sue anybody for anything else. Duh. I can sue you for making dumb reddit comments. So what?

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100GbE t1_j23h46k wrote

Is this post UL approved?

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smithers85 t1_j23s7k7 wrote

It is not, and now my insurance company has dropped me for reading it.

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Successful_Ride6920 t1_j23yi8q wrote

I took a CyberLaw class once and the instructor said there's only 2 answers you should get from a lawyer: ask "Can I sue?" and the answer is always Yes; any other question should always be answered with "It depends" LOL

In essence, you can always sue, it doesn't mean you'll win

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danielv123 t1_j23lqp3 wrote

Isn't UL approved like CE approval in that if you only use approved parts then the end product is OK as well?

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JEGS25 t1_j23qv7b wrote

Kind of.

Making something out of UL registered components (UR) does not make it UL approved, but makes approval much easier and quicker. You could make a Spinning Knife Electrocuting Machine of Death (TM) out of all UL registered components - UL may still choose to not certify it (their loss).

CE is different from UL. CE is the pirates code - more like guidelines. A manufacturer can self certify their product CE. No one has to verify it, but the manufacturer is potentially liable if there is an issue. I

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Bullinahanky2point0 t1_j24dsjl wrote

I think you're gonna have to fight Colin Furze for that (TM) he made that belt of knives a few years ago.

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nivek_c t1_j240fl9 wrote

Yes, as long as you use those products for their intended purpose as declared by the testing lab. This is not the listed usage for any of these devices, so it does not pass the sniff test

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nivek_c t1_j23zelj wrote

This is just bad information. You create a device that causes a fire, you were not qualified to make it, you're getting held liable. It's really not that hard to understand, and I have personally met people whom this has happened to

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jeffroddit t1_j2cd6da wrote

Bullshit, there is no "qualified to make it" police and even if there were there isn't a "qualified to make it" standard for the non-existant "qualified to make it" law to require.

It's really not that hard to understand and you absolutely do not know anybody who this happened to.

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