Submitted by charlieisshakingme t3_zsptm8 in DIY
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Submitted by charlieisshakingme t3_zsptm8 in DIY
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Before turning on any heat source id turn a fan on and vent the area. That shit has acetone and toluene in it, not great to be breathing in, or igniting.
I was finished gluing right about 24 hours ago. I left the door open for a few hours and have it cracked now.
I can't get a fan down there
Always follow the instructions and heed the warnings on the container, the manufacturer’s website, and the safety documentation for the product. If you read the tube, the safety documentation, or the Leech Products website for F26, you’ll realize you have 2 problems.
Although F26 is VOC compliant, that doesn’t mean F26 isn’t harmful or dangerous. The fumes released while F26 cures is flammable. The time to cure depends on temperature. The amount of VOCs present during cure time depends on ventilation. The safety documentation states that both ventilation and removing ignition sources is required.
Many construction adhesives react with foam board and tub surrounds. Leech Products safety information has a bold warning that F26 will attack polystyrene foam and tub enclosures. Check the last line in Working Surfaces. I bet that warning is on the tube too.
Use an adhesive for foam board like Leech Products F13 or Loctite PL 300. Using the wrong construction adhesive for foam board will often result not only in the foam board separating from structure but the foam board also ending up in smaller pieces requiring you to recut and reapply more foam board.
The light bulb won't ignite anything unless it gets broken.
Partially true. The element in the bulb is sealed, but when turning on a light you will get a tiny spark when the parts inside the switch make contact.
I asked a friend that was a police officer in a city where there were lots of drug busts the question why in movies (and real life) the police don't switch on a light when entering a home to search.
He said that in quite a few drug houses they either booby trap the light switches as well as fumes created from meth production (and other drugs) is flammable enough to ignite. They go through training that shows that a light switch can ignite the fumes if there is a high enough concentrate of flammable/explosive gas.
The electronics they use (radio/flashlight) have been certified to not create sparks when in use for this reason.
What I posted is 100% true. The. Light. Bulb. Won't. ignite. Anything.
Besides, while the fumes from the adhesive are flammable there's not going to be enough in the air to ignite from a switch.
Guess this is what I get for rushing the job. I really wanted to insulate a bit for today's weather.
A guy at Lowes recommended the f26 when I saw they were out of the material - specific adhesive. Hopefully the film on the boards will save it.
Hopefully the bulk of the curing is done. It's been 24 hours. It's been wide open for a few hours yesterday and I just had the fan blowing on it for an hour. The door is cracked open now. It's been about 40 degrees since application.
Update: I had someone accompany me outside to test the fumes out with a bic lighter around 1pm. Figured I'd go ahead and test worst case scenario, either I'd be fine or suddenly it wouldn't be my problem anymore.
So all went fine there. I turned on the light and shut the door 5 hours ago and been fine since.
It's currently 17 degrees Fahrenheit outside the well house and 54 degrees inside of it.
If you have a some kind of foil or other backing thats between the foam and the F26, you might be okay. If you put the adhesive directly on the foam, the foam board may come loose and fall down. I don’t what the timeframe is for that to happen.
I worked for Lowes years ago. Lowes employees must pass training and testing for their department to be assigned to that department. The employees in paint, plumbing, and lumber would be required to know the adhesives and coatings that can be used on foam board and similar products like tub surrounds. The problem comes when employees from other departments help you. Those other employee may not be required to know about adhesives and coatings. I wouldn’t be surprised if an employee from millworks or hardware was helping you and said you could use construction adhesive on foam board. They are technically correct, but employee might not know that there are different construction adhesives for different applications. I worked in Hardware, Tools, and Millworks. I was never required to know about the various adhesives. The way I learned about PL300 was when Lowes sent me to Pella to learn about sealing around Pella windows. Pella showed us multiple methods including a combination of foam board and PL 300.
This video explains the most common adhesives and sealants used in home construction: https://youtu.be/wZhGA-zrN_U
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Interesting-Dish8894 t1_j197ou2 wrote
Until they’re not. How long is a piece of rope