2001sleeper t1_jdr4p0w wrote
If it is not working, dig it up and replace with some of the premade PVC French drain pipe.
Supafly22 t1_jdrax0e wrote
Or 4” sock pipe with a stone aggregate for drainage through.
tripmcneely30 t1_jdrtxt1 wrote
Yep. Sock pipe is what you want. It's not easy, but it's worth it.
Supafly22 t1_jds3oo9 wrote
Yep. Keeps pipe clean and clear.
Louisiana_sitar_club t1_jdsvrg5 wrote
If it’s stopping the sediment from getting into the pipe, doesn’t the sock clog? The sediment has to be somewhere.
Tebasaki t1_jdsxp7l wrote
Yes it will. Youvneed rocks around it. I'd dig it up, put landscaping fabric in bi of rock pvc more rock and the wrap it and dirt on top.
tripmcneely30 t1_jdtk9nf wrote
It's corrugated sock-pipe. The are holes in the pipe allows water to flow properly. The "sock" keeps the sediment out.
Louisiana_sitar_club t1_jdtocet wrote
But isn’t the sock around the pipe just something that has small enough spaces to let water through but not sediment? Won’t the sock clog up with sediment the way an air filter clogs with dust?
iRamHer t1_jdtvjzz wrote
eventually. you'll end up removing and redoing it eventually.
to prolong this, you can make a wrap to give more filter surface, and use a proper landscape fabric. a double punched non woven fabric is what you want. 4oz is a happy medium, less will allow more flow but isn't as heavy, 6/8, and higher oz will be less permeable and won't pass water as quickly.
to be fair, you don't use a French drain to take care of surface water. op should just run a trench that can be easily cleaned if maintenance is priority and ground water isn't a concern. can run a French drain underneath if needed.
in a French drain you ALWAYS want to use a fabric. even in heavy clay. again, many people are better served by proper slope and surface drains for the bulk of their water, which prolongs fabric health.
bloomingtonwhy t1_jdtdpz7 wrote
What makes it not easy? The excavation?
tripmcneely30 t1_jdtjoxq wrote
Pretty much. You want a 6"-8" excavation for a 4" sock pipe. Probably 1"-2" of small gravel underneath. Back-fill as best you can and throw the rest under the deck or the neighbors yard.
bloomingtonwhy t1_jdtrvi8 wrote
Oh, all my excavated soil goes into filling out my yard!
tripmcneely30 t1_jdtva12 wrote
Haha!
cgs626 t1_jdsbsux wrote
Yeah NDS ez pipe
Mikesturant t1_jdsv3qc wrote
Heh, "sock pipe" heh hehhehe
reallynotfred t1_jdsy1mo wrote
Silly goose, you’re thinking “pipe sock”
Mikesturant t1_jdsy463 wrote
Heh. Giggity
Jd771 t1_jdrcgoj wrote
If they go through the work of digging up, is there a way to deal with the excess sediment at the end where the trench meets the driveway? Seems to be the worst spot for the finer sediment and then gets introduced to the entire system from the start.
2001sleeper t1_jdre6a0 wrote
Where is the sediment coming from? It is not falling out of the sky. It looks like the same material that is used for the current “drain”.
Jd771 t1_jdrf1jh wrote
The big sloped driveway I'd presume
anormalgeek t1_jds1rlb wrote
It's all running downhill. And it'll never stop. So you either design a system to work with it, or plan to clear it out every so often. Likely some combination.
Words_Are_Hrad t1_jdsui0j wrote
>It is not falling out of the sky
You know that stuff called dust that accumulates on everything? It's not just spontaneously coming into existence... Now imagine that over hundreds of square feet all being washed to a specific point by rain over and over and over again...
2001sleeper t1_jdt1lka wrote
See the OPs comment. It is coming from other work performed.
MrSloane t1_jdsocjh wrote
Yeah, I'd ditch all of the current rock and sand and just fill in drainage stones
Klaatu162 t1_jdrpzr7 wrote
I agree. Where is the sediment coming from???
rugbyj t1_jds0ic9 wrote
The 20ft grass verge immediately next to it?
Klaatu162 t1_jds2ksy wrote
Why wouldn't the grass verge hold back the sediment? Just trying to understand. Most grass locks in the soil.
yacht_boy t1_jdsjuxc wrote
It's grass, not concrete.
2001sleeper t1_jdt1qak wrote
Not really. If that was the case then everything would naturally flatten and level over time.
barto5 t1_jdtnqqf wrote
Anywhere water flows across the ground it’s going to pick up sediment along the way.
putriidx OP t1_jds5q6x wrote
I actually did some work on the other side of the driveway and used this rock system to drain it away. It was a lot of dirt and clay so it kinda stayed mucky. I was hoping the rain would help wash it away but that didn't happen lol
Tom_Traill t1_jdt7new wrote
All the dirt and clay may have gone into the drainage system, mucking it up.
You might have shot yourself in the foot, amigo.
putriidx OP t1_jdt9z8j wrote
Nah it's fine. It looks worse than usual but I did confirm it works as it usually does which is meh
2001sleeper t1_jdreqyr wrote
Also, where exactly are you wanting the water to discharge?
Tom_Traill t1_jdt7t23 wrote
I thought the same. Then I looked closely at the first picture, and it appears they are trying to get it to drain towards the lower area in the distance.
2001sleeper t1_jdtg7rq wrote
Hmm, if that is the case, that corner with the driveway needs a catch basin and the drain should follow that natural drainage line in the grass.
Tom_Traill t1_jdthgms wrote
I'm not an expert. Perhaps they developed a drainage problem and this is how the fixed it.
A drain following the contour of the drainage line in the grass would be a larger project. Makes sense, though.
tuckedfexas t1_jdrybqp wrote
Looking at that slope, he's gonna have to put a basin in as well. That drain box is 10" deep and fills up really fast. the PVC "french drains" only work if they have somewhere to take the water.
Mikesturant t1_jdsv221 wrote
If it's not working, it's working just as it would work if you removed it all and filled it in.
Think to yourself "Do I really want to finish this project" before you start any project.
CromulentGuido t1_jdrtara wrote
This, then put the rocks back on top
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