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ragggaerat t1_j8ui5bm wrote

Reply to comment by so2017 in Community Colleges, State Universities, and UConn by BobbyBuzz008

Theres a reason for that disparity but if you say it you get downovted. But i 1000% agree. State shouldnt step in cause soemhow UConn has manged to turn pandemic era relief into a staple in its budget. The quality of student that goes to UConn vrs CSCU is noticable. One might even argue that if this 3k increase goes into place the type of student UConn attracts might choose a flaghsip somwhere else. Ik my validitrian went here. would she if another flagship like pennstate was a similar price. Idk its hard to quite state but that disparity in funding didnt just come outta nowhere. A state like Ct needs a UConn to attract certain types of individual. There are so many reputable colleges in sorroudning states. We might have a legitimate brain drain if Uconn looses its competive price edge. I dont know how UConn is run but there should be no price hike as well as no increase by the state. Some people needa get fired come programs needa get cut. Unless similar colleges like pennstate and Rutgers get similar tuition increases i dont think they should>

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Just came to say im talking about high acheiving and not class. How many senators went to community colleges. This isnt about class. AOC was poor and went to boston college. Connecticut spends more to attract people like her . High achieving regardless of class.

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mommy2brenna t1_j8v294h wrote

> The quality of student that goes to UCONN vs CCSU is noticable.

Would you like to expand on that rude, sweeping, generalization?

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dziuniekdrive t1_j8v5gkm wrote

Not OP, ,but for accounting majors BIG4 hire out of uconn, not ccsu.

Regional and local firms have a bigger presence at ccsu.

Anecdotal evidence from 10 years ago.

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Bust_A_Nutmeg t1_j9agbk5 wrote

To back up this anecdotal evidence: all of my friends with at least a 3.3 in Accounting at UConn ended up at Big4 firms, my friend with a 3.8 in Accounting at ECSU ended up at Blum Shapiro

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fprintf t1_j8we8tk wrote

I don't know, you have all sorts of measures to pick from. SAT scores, place in graduating class, ability to attain academic or other scholarships, and more.

UCONN is far more competitive to get into in the first place. And as an instructor I can tell you without a doubt the quality of the students in my experience is far better than the CCSU and ECSU students I have known or even the Quinnipiac students I have taught. In my current class of sophomores I am blown away by the observable differences, both qualitatively (higher grades for same material) and quantitatively (writing and logic abilities).

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JCCR90 t1_j8wdds1 wrote

Don't want to offend anyone but it's night and day in my experience. One uconn alumni we hire in private equity fund accounting is easily worth two from the regional schools in as far as productivity and room for promotion goes.

The discrepancy is even more pronounced 5,10,15 years after school. All the uconn hires who've left our firm are Assistant Controllers, Controllers, Directors, Vice President, CFO now and the regional school grads hit a cap or had a much much longer road to the same promotions.

Does this mean there aren't superstars at the regional schools, absolutely not, but if we're talking about the average 💯.

I would much rather be taken care of a doctor or nurse who did their undergrad or nursing program at uconn for sure.

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ShamusTheClown t1_j8wc69o wrote

He's saying that Uconn keeps out the Poors, and thus is more cultured.

As a Uconn Alum:

Uconn's undergrad education is shit, and not any better than a state school.

The reason you go there is 100% for Networking and Job Opportunities. So his point is somewhat correct: the difference is a Class Barrier.

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fprintf t1_j8wesbm wrote

No it isn't. UCONN has objectively higher quality students looking at acceptance criteria. It is a legitimately difficult school to get into for many high school seniors who end up going to the other state school systems. Now if your argument is that more students from Simsbury, Avon and Glastonbury get in to UCONN and fewer from poorer towns like Bristol, Berlin, Norwalk then you probably have a point. But that isn't UCONN's problem to solve, that is either the town (because our k-12 is town based) or a larger state problem to fix education at that level before they get to UCONN.

UCONN has selective admissions, at least it has had that in the past 20 years. When I went to college 30 years ago UCONN was where you went as your safe school. No longer, for many kids it is their primary destination, partly because it is up to 1/2 as expensive as private schools.

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lazy-but-talented t1_j8wo5b1 wrote

as a poor kid that graduated uconn you just simply have to get good

my undergrad was good and got me a job in my field before I graduated after applying to two places

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CoarsePage t1_j8uwz0y wrote

I've got coworkers from central and from UConn, I'd take the central guys anyway. The only aspect that UConn is superior is their post grad degrees.

Your other point about the brain drain, I don't think it's too related to going to school in CT. It's about retaining them after graduation. For that you need engaging jobs and greater access to housing. Some of which CT offers, some not so much.

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STODracula t1_j8wl23s wrote

Central is great, but their president.... She was the dean at my university and got the boot after a 2 week student+employee strike. From what I read, she hasn't changed.

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CoarsePage t1_j8xahip wrote

Yeah Toro is trash, but by and large the staff and institutional ability are good.

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LordConnecticut t1_j8wit9q wrote

This theory is dead in the water, a huge amount of waste occurs in purely administrative areas, that students never see or interact with.

UConn spends more in certain administrative categories then Ivy League schools do, so no none if it is warranted.

They even fleece their students for egregious amounts. For example, parking costs to park in agricultural Storrs, are far higher then what Yale charges to park in downtown new haven. There is plenty of space in Storrs, yet they charge like they couldn’t fit one more car in, not to mention pushing student parking to the periphery of campus while keeping central parking for administration. It’s disgusting.

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