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EarthExile t1_j9a4tm4 wrote

What's the big deal? I've been repeatedly assured that laws can't actually prevent people from getting their hands on weapons if they really want to. Just do that!

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9aipd1 wrote

It’s illegal to drive drunk, have you ever even heard of a fatal drunk driving accident? Me neither!

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EarthExile t1_j9apbk5 wrote

Exactly, so who cares what the laws are? So stop bitching about gun control. It won't prevent whatever senseless violence you eventually decide to inflict.

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9ar3fz wrote

Tell that to King Ned.

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EarthExile t1_j9asbb9 wrote

Oh, I don't believe it at all. Laws work. Drunk driving still happens, but less. People put effort into preventing, policing, and punishing it. People who might have driven drunk will reconsider because the law makes it a bigger risk.

When people claim that gun control won't reduce gun violence, they are wrong and they know it. They know it will make weapons less available and the associated death less common. If they really believed the laws would be ineffective, they wouldn't cry about the laws. They're just gun worshippers who don't like the idea of their faith being regulated.

There are no perfect solutions. But when we try, things get better.

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9b8glf wrote

The people who commit gun violence aren’t concerned with the laws.

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EarthExile t1_j9b9qm9 wrote

Of course they are. Just imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse had had to acquire his hunting equipment on the black market.

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9bbk2o wrote

Or imagine if Gaige Groesskreutz didn’t illegally carry a pistol to a protest without a permit (expired permit from another state)

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EarthExile t1_j9bbtok wrote

I'm not familiar with that name, who did they kill?

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9bc7tw wrote

They illegally brought a pistol to a peaceful protest and pointed it at Kyle. To which Kyle responded. If you wanna talk gun laws, why isn’t Gaige in jail for illegally carrying a pistol?

Also, anybody tell this guy it’s illegal to drive through parades?

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EarthExile t1_j9bdlf8 wrote

That's odd. So the law abiding gun owner killed people, but the criminal didn't. You sure this is helping make your point?

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9bee0s wrote

He shot a person who was illegally carrying after this person point a pistol at him. Timing and context is everything. That’s called self defense. We’ve all seen the videos and the trial. Gaige admitted to committing 3 felonies.

If Gaige had killed Kyle, how do you think that would look to your point?

It would be another criminal committing murder wouldn’t it?

Was Kyle a tool? Yes. A punk? Also yes. Should he have been there? Absolutely not. But don’t ignore the fact that Gaige was illegally carrying a pistol either. Laws are laws!

I know it’s a lot but the last 30 seconds of this will clear things up

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flatdanny t1_j9bobtz wrote

> Gaige was illegally carrying a pistol

And child Mensa candidate Rottenhouse knew this how?

In the eyes of the participants each"good guy with a gun" thought they were stopping a bad guy with a gun.

Why? because both civilians had guns on the street.

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