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foodcoma85 t1_j5lsr9h wrote

Ah yes, the classic deadly force justification of someone breaking into a car. They taught me this in the Air Force.

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NotSurHowTitanicEnds t1_j5rwgux wrote

Ah the classic victim shot by criminal perpetrating a crime. They shouldn’t have taken any issue with being robbed or assaulted. They were bad victims. World teaches us this daily.

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DerpolIus t1_j5qilmi wrote

Do you think people just have infinite resources to replace everything that’s stolen time and time again? Break ins are expensive to fix, and that could be the difference between having enough to eat and going to bed hungry. It must be very nice to be so privileged that you’ve never had to consider this. Fuck off and go back to your gated community.

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foodcoma85 t1_j5qumff wrote

Firearms are defensive tools meant to counter or prevent the malicious imminent use of deadly force by another. They’re not a tool for lower tiers of force. You can’t use deadly force against someone not using deadly force against yourself or others, nor can you use a deadly force tool intentionally in a non deadly manner, such as to maim.

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DerpolIus t1_j5r6yxh wrote

Anyone who willingly steals from another has to be at least dimly aware of the possibility of death. A theft might cost someone their livelihood, and I won’t disparage anyone who defends that. Harming the perpetrator is not something I’m against.

That being said, this case isn’t a good example of that. You’re right in that deadly force shouldn’t be used in a situation where you’re not being actively threatened, and definitely shouldn’t be used in a pursuit like this guy did. If weapons were drawn I’d disagree with you, but after reading the article, I take back my kneejerk reaction.

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NotSurHowTitanicEnds t1_j5rx5s9 wrote

I agree, use of deadly force to protect possessions is a crime and should be. But lets not pretend those perpetrating thefts don’t carry weapons and readily use them. If this guy isn’t lying, he saw the kid reaching for what he perceived as a gun. Its not out of the realm of possibilities, it happens literally daily. Happened to a woman in Glastonbury who caught someone in her car summer of 21. They shot at her. She was the victim, she didn’t ask to be robbed and almost killed that day. Neither did this man.

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