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B6304T4 t1_j5lkp7s wrote

His biggest mistake was missing.

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chopper_sic_balls t1_j5lqhhb wrote

Honestly I get it… I get why you feel that way and I understand people are fed up with kids and adults getting away stealing all the time and nothing being done about it.. but personally, not me… there is nothing in my car worth me killing a kid or anyone over. That’s just me though…

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Language-Aromatic t1_j5mi4a5 wrote

When you work two jobs to survive and only have liability and some fucks steal your car. That’s your livelihood that’s your life. Someone with that situation may not give a shit and start blasting.

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chopper_sic_balls t1_j5mj87r wrote

Maybe you don’t know my situation and what I would do in that situation even though I jus told you what I would do and it isn’t killing teenagers over a car but carry on buddy

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5n8meb wrote

You've never been in a war zone kid, I have, you either act or get acted upon and you might not live.

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the-crotch t1_j5obgu4 wrote

It's new Haven not Afghanistan, take it down a notch

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chopper_sic_balls t1_j5og772 wrote

You don’t know what I’ve been or what I’ve done… since you called me a kid when I’m clearly not that… so relax “kid”

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5n8iau wrote

If it were Afghanistan when I were there I'd have emptied my clip first asked questions after, and yes I have had to do that, do I regret it? Yes, but what could've happened n what did happen are 2 different things. I thank whatever God there is I'm still here bc I acted first when I saw a threat.

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xGUACAMOLEx t1_j5n9mq8 wrote

oh we got a tough guy!!!

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5nbey8 wrote

Say that to me in person man, we'd have a solid discussion about the do and don't when you are in active combat. Hopefully you never saw that and the loss and horror that comes with it, as a man I can day, I still suffer from ptsd from that, can you? Have you ever had to make a choice of life or death? I hope not.

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BrownMan65 t1_j5nmaeo wrote

Oh look at mister war criminal here trying to act so cool.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5nmt7y wrote

Look at Mr pussy who never served for his country, I'd bet you've never even seen a fist fight let alone active combat. I wouldn't trust you with a butter knife and a roll kid

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BrownMan65 t1_j5nn989 wrote

Yeah I’m glad I didn’t help this country kill millions of innocent civilians in the Middle East for the crime of being brown.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5nn0yt wrote

Brownman65 I hope we reinstate the draft and you get picked. Go thru what I did then come talk to me when your a man. When you have ptsd and regrets.

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BrownMan65 t1_j5nnc41 wrote

You chose to go there on your own. You deserve every mental trauma you’ve gained from your time there because you shouldn’t have been there in the first place. Don’t get mad at me because you’re a war criminal.

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Sweaty_Conclusion_80 t1_j5ol1xo wrote

Maybe you should be blaming the politicians of both parties who sent him…

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BrownMan65 t1_j5orhu3 wrote

The willing soldier is just as guilty as the politician that sent them there. You don’t get to say you didn’t think you’d have to kill anyone when you chose to join the military. That’s the whole point of the military.

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Sweaty_Conclusion_80 t1_j5ov3ex wrote

You have no idea what this person’s motivation was for joining the military. Be careful on your moral high horse, the ground is hard.

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BrownMan65 t1_j5pw081 wrote

A person's motivations don't matter when they're signing up for an organization whose sole purpose has been to spread death and destruction under the guise of freedom around the world over the last 80 years.

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B6304T4 t1_j5m4i6g wrote

To that kid there was stuff in that car worth dying for.

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SporkyForks2 t1_j5posax wrote

I have house plants with more value than punk kids who victimize people.

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gregra193 t1_j5lr4zm wrote

Nah, then he might have a murder charge. For somebody who was running away from his property who he thought had a gun.

When you carry, you need to understand how the law works and applies in various situations.

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Dank_Bonkripper78_ t1_j5ndk22 wrote

I really hope you’re not willing to kill someone over a baby monitor. And if you are, I hope you take some time to reflect on what’s valuable to you and your life

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B6304T4 t1_j5ove93 wrote

If CT didn't have the laws it had, I'd be more than willing to protect my property. Do I want to kill someone? Absolutly not. But if you break into my car to use my garage door opener to gain access to my house or go on a joyride with my car and make me liable for damages? Yeah I might have some choices to make. See the issue is, when someone is breaking into your car, they don't notify you first what they're after. So you're breaking into my car, I can only assume you're taking away the tool which gets me to and from my livelihood every day. Sure. Could be a baby monitor in there. Could be some clothes. Could be a baby in there too. Doesn't make a difference. The thief should "reflect on what's valuable to them and their life." maybe we should start taking our belongings from in our car and leave them out outside in a basket like cookies for Santa. No more damaged property and thieves still get to steal my reading glasses and dunkin napkins.

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Dank_Bonkripper78_ t1_j5q1drw wrote

You changed the scenario from a petty misdemeanor to a violent felony. If someone is breaking and entering your home, an entire different set of laws apply. Protect your property by not leaving valuables in your car and locking your doors. Also, when someone joyrides in your car, you’re not going to be held liable for any damages unless you were abhorrently negligent

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SnooRevelations6632 t1_j5my6i6 wrote

Yeah a bit too far

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5n8baa wrote

Always adjust your sights is the message I get, and if you aim aim for the leg, worst case assault with a deadly weapon is better then murder, and sends a message to any would be criminals

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B6304T4 t1_j5n9cp9 wrote

Aim for the leg gets you attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and a lawsuit. Unfortunately the way things go, you're better off taking the risk on a murder/manslaughter charge. Gangs send messages, using violence to prove a point is never a good approach. Dead people have a really hard time reoffending.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5n9klt wrote

Well then good to know, IL make sure of that. And make sure I'm backed in a corner per ct law which is fucked that you have to be in a corner in your own house to defend yourself to avoid prosecution

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B6304T4 t1_j5n9yll wrote

Yup. It's unfortunate that our legislature has put citizens in this position where you have to be at the brink of death with nowhere to run to MAYBE have a chance at not getting convicted.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5nb157 wrote

That's why it's a good lesson, always have a good lawyer on retainer in CT, never know if you need one or not for that matter

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_j5nb536 wrote

And maybe the old Joe Swanson trick, plant a knife on that bird just to be safe

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the-crotch t1_j5obp4i wrote

Yes, so unfortunate that we can't shoot people in the back for stealing an ipod

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B6304T4 t1_j5ovocv wrote

Did they ring your door bell to let you know they'd ONLY be taking your iPod, or should we just assume they're not going to steal your car or better yet use your garage door opener to get in your house?

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the-crotch t1_j5ox7ky wrote

If I badly wanted to shoot them, like you seem to, I'd let them come in the house. We have castle doctrine in CT I'd be free and clear legally speaking

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B6304T4 t1_j5p10of wrote

I don't but I also shouldn't have to wait until a threat is inside my house is my point. We should be stand your ground, not just castle doctrine. On top of it, we're a duty to retreat state too. So if you're being car jacked or robbed in your own driveway, you have to basically let it happen because it's "not in your dwelling".

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the-crotch t1_j5p1z1b wrote

Stand your ground wouldn't apply here, they weren't threatening him they were stealing from his car and he'd still be in just as much legal trouble in a stand your ground state

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ZaggahZiggler t1_j5lxoa3 wrote

His mistake was calling the police. If you’re gonna do vigilante shit don’t expect a reward.

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AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_j5lz06d wrote

Man, people are really thirsty for teen blood.

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Language-Aromatic t1_j5minsr wrote

There’s a difference between wanting to wait for a situation just to kill someone and wanting to protect property they get taxed on they have to sit and wait for police to arrive while the damage is done. People are getting tired of it.

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ZoqY t1_j5orj5m wrote

Nah just higher consequences for robbing innocent people

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