"Native Land Digital" is an indigenous-led, Canadian-based non-profit group seeking to raise awareness of where original Native American tribes owned property. They admit that this is a work in progress, not perfect, and seek corrections. Thought the CT map (with some NY) was quite interesting.Submitted by CTHistory42 t3_10gx1la in Connecticut
Whaddaulookinat t1_j55n9yb wrote
"Munsee Lenape"? Oh boy that'll rile up the usual suspects 😂😂
For those unaware: The lumping of Munsee and Lenape is, frankly, super controversial and may be post contact mythology/whisper campaign to delegitimize Lenape claims by some states and other tribes. Or could be absolutely true. Or somewhere in between. Honestly worth a read into it, it gets amazingly petty.
CTHistory42 OP t1_j567re5 wrote
Huh ... was completely unaware. I have much reading to do yet.
Whaddaulookinat t1_j568leu wrote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramapough_Mountain_Indians
A pretty good primer under the "Controversy" section... I did a very deep dive years ago on the Ramapo and seems pretty much in line with what I remember but I'd have to comb through that section with the research notes I have somewhere here. I should say there is a slight difference between the northern (NYS/CT) Lenape - Ramapo and the southern (NJ/PA)... but the article gives an idea why adding the Munsee is not totally solid.
IIRC the Ramapo in Kent are still trying to get only state recognition with the property they've accumulated past the green. I should say in honest that family lore is that our original English ancestry intermarried with the CT Ramapo for a whole lot of generations and honestly going through the existing records I could it seemed plausible if not extremely likely.
CTHistory42 OP t1_j569gi9 wrote
I will definitely check out the link / Controversy section. Thank you!
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Had no idea about the Ramapo and Kent (Kent, CT or Kent, NY?)
Whaddaulookinat t1_j569nsz wrote
Kent, CT although last I heard the corporation does have holdings in NY but I'm in no way aware if its contiguous to what else they have or how big.
CTHistory42 OP t1_j56ablj wrote
I am gob-smacked (to steal a favorite term from my British friends). I only knew of the Schaghticoke gfight with the feds for property and tribal land recognition (actually, basic tribal status - they have some land). Thanks again!
Whaddaulookinat t1_j56cduz wrote
I'm really not familiar with the recent Schaghticoke on-goings but I do remember some drama about that.
If you really want a wild, wild ride the Golden Hill tribe in Bridgeport is a great encapsulation on a whole lot of threads about Native history. Granted though there's a lot of tragedy in that too.
CTHistory42 OP t1_j56znys wrote
Is that the group that owns the equivalent of a residential property in (I think) Trumbull, or somewhere close by? I believe it's listed as a reservation or official tribal property if a Google search is done
Whaddaulookinat t1_j5b2s2z wrote
That's the one
CTHistory42 OP t1_j57eweg wrote
Interesting read.
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