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Kolzig33189 t1_j2dynz1 wrote

I would love to see that Ring camera footage but the few sources I’ve read like wtnh and fox 61 haven’t mentioned if that was released to public: because if there’s one thing a group of teens do on Halloween, it’s sitting innocently on a sidewalk not doing anything mischievous at all.

Does anyone know or have a different link with the cam footage? Specifically the first interaction, not just the two seconds of the teens being chased. Or even if the footage was released to local authorities because none of the articles state that either.

If true that the teens were just sitting on a sidewalk, yeah the cop should be suspended or probably lose the badge if the review board thinks that’s appropriate. But if they were TPing house, property damage, or doing some other usual Halloween prank that involves trespassing or costing property owner money to fix, it’s hard for me to feel too badly for them. Cop is still an idiot hothead for chasing them but at least it makes some iota of sense rather than them just freaking out for no reason.

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TCPottery t1_j2e61u8 wrote

Kids get charged with misdemeanors or with being incorrigible for things that were simply considered pranks prior to the 80s and all the super-predator fear mongering. Give kids a break - most annoying activities are outgrown and require zero juvenile justice system involvement.

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Kolzig33189 t1_j2eeqzr wrote

It depends on the situation. If teens TP a tree on someone’s property, sure it’s annoying to clean up but that shouldn’t be a misdemeanor.

What happened on my cul de sac on Halloween last year was 3 people (likely teens but who knows for sure) went in backyard of several houses and brought chairs and other patio/deck furniture out in front and threw it in the street. Items were obviously damaged. Cameras picked up pieces of them doing it but with masks on and no car within view it made it impossible to get any helpful descriptions. Would misdemeanor charges (if identified obviously) be appropriate there? I think absolutely yes.

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TCPottery t1_j2er47o wrote

Yes, that's apples and oranges. Definitely they should be cited and make amends for their behavior.

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Kolzig33189 t1_j2fus0s wrote

That’s my point; situations are not always equal. Some people (not saying you, just in general) will say the same things or kids will be kids when it’s TPing a house, smashing pumpkins in the street, or similar and they would be correct. There’s no damage, cost, etc.

But other people still excuse more serious behavior issues as kids will be kids like the scenario I described so it’s never as simple as give the kids a break across the board without knowing exactly what is happening; each situation is fairly unique.

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flyingfred1027 t1_j2eep64 wrote

Do you even know any teenagers? Even if they were TPing a house, which they weren’t and you’d know if you read the article, it doesn’t make it okay for a person to yell out racial slurs and threaten to kill them. What is wrong with you?

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Kolzig33189 t1_j2efplr wrote

Gee I guess you missed the part where I said the cop was an idiot hothead who should probably lose their job. Nowhere did I excuse behavior by the adult in this situation.

But I also know teens lie constantly. You’d be amazed at how many teens come into the outpatient facility where I work and tell me to my face no I don’t use drugs (certain ones can have really dangerous effects when paired with anesthesia or similar), I tell them we are going to test you anyway, they say no again, and their tests come back as they actively have stuff in their system. Literally could have killed them if test comes back incorrectly.

If the beginning of the story hinges on their word of “we were just sitting on the curb on Halloween night” and that part of the camera footage isn’t available, I’m sorry for being skeptical. That’s why I was asking if anyone had a link to the whole timeline of footage and not just one clip, I want to know whether this is completely one sided ridiculous behavior by the cop or the teens are lying about what happened in their first place.

It’s weird that me saying “I’d like to see the whole incident if available because the cops reaction was complete lunacy” is somehow me defending the actions of this person when at no point did I do that.

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MyGodItsFullOfClowns OP t1_j2e1uyk wrote

Defaulting to a knee-jerk reflexive defense of the cop huh?

There are bits of the neighbors cam footage in the article but if the cops sister said she had too much to drink and the police report confirms the cam caught hers shouting racist things while she attacked a couple 13/14 year olds I'd say it's a little more than hotheaded. Especially since it's not her first disciplinary incident.

More details here https://www.wfsb.com/2022/12/30/new-haven-officer-accused-chasing-trick-or-treaters-yelling-racial-slur-while-off-duty/ Apparently she was drunk driving too. Wow.

edit: ouch, the other disciplinary thing was not arresting a serial rapist https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/Report-Investigation-concludes-cops-erred-by-not-13616223.php

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Kolzig33189 t1_j2e3ghb wrote

I missed the part about the cops sister saying she was drunk, so obviously that changes things.

And it’s not a knee jerk defensive reaction to want to know how the incident started; that’s the complete opposite of knee jerk reaction since I want the whole picture of events before coming to any conclusions and not just pick it up halfway.

I don’t agree (obviously) with how the cop handled the situation but again, I always want to know the complete story.

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