Submitted by Usedtoknowsomeone46 t3_z2ieje in Connecticut
Pruedrive t1_ixhg06v wrote
Reply to comment by Spooky2000 in Darien Debates, then Votes on a Flag Policy by Usedtoknowsomeone46
This is the dumbest shit, seriously where do you even come up with this shit, then think it’s worth posting?
Spooky2000 t1_ixhgk2s wrote
Ah, most news outlets reporting it.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/23/us/colorado-springs-club-q-shooting-wednesday/index.html
Pruedrive t1_ixhgqbd wrote
Their gender identity is irrelevant to what the person you are commenting on, and what their intentions behind that statement were.
Spooky2000 t1_ixhh77j wrote
Their gender identity is the focus of what we are talking about. Or are you going to claim that lots of non binary people get their hate from FOX news and conservatives?
>We're being murdered for existing, act accordingly.
How does that fit in with a non binary person killing other lgbtq people?
Pruedrive t1_ixhjqh1 wrote
Because it doesn’t negate the original posters statement the world is a dangerous place for LGBTQA people, this is a irrefutable fact, the gender identity of this one attacker doesn’t negate, or cast an doubt on this. LGBTQA folks should take their self defense deathly serious in this country, and just because this one attack was perpetrated by someone who (may) be of that group, is still outweighed by thousands of right wing extremists who would love to do the same.
Realistically, I don’t even understand the nature or even the point of your argument here.
Spooky2000 t1_ixhx90f wrote
>original posters statement
Was literally blaming FOX news for this.
>Realistically, I don’t even understand the nature or even the point of your argument here.
You guys are just blaming this entire thing on FOX and conservatives even when it is the fault of another LGBT person.
And I do hope more LGBT people step up and protect themselves. Everyone that want's to should have and use that right.
Ftheyankeei t1_ixigd2c wrote
Gonna just point out the dichotomy of recent events here.
A man breaks into Nancy Pelosi's house with the intent of assassinating her; beats her husband nearly to death with a hammer; tells police he did so because he believed right-wing political theory; right wing media makes up a story where the assaulter was a gay man in a tryst with Paul Pelosi, despite official police reports telling a completely different story that is damning to right-wing ideals.
A man whose neighbors reported he frequently used homophobic slurs and who threatened to kill his mother in a bomb threat in 2021 that led to a police standoff, whose family then pays lawyers to bury the charges, goes to a gay bar a year later, kills 5, injures 25; His defense lawyers tell the police and leak to the media the shooter claims he is non-binary (most likely a defense strategy to avoid hate crime charges in addition to murder charges, and with no further proof to back it up, given that the night of the shooting, his loving mother referred to him as her son and used he/him pronouns to identify him) and the right wing immediately parrots the narrative because it allows them to downplay a mass shooting against the LGBTQ+ community.
It is obvious that facts do not matter to Republicans any more as long as they bray loudly enough to shout down opposing narratives. After a year of increasingly heated anti-LGBTQ rhetoric coming from the right wing, making blanket accusations up to and including that all queer people are pedophiles, that has led to murders in places like Portland, Oregon (where an alt-right furry, of all people, killed four people), and has led to at least three bomb threats against children's hospitals (and counting), once a mass shooting happens at a gay bar in a region known for heated anti-gay rhetoric including from elected officials, they pivot to, what else?, blaming the LGBTQ community for its own murder.
Don't bother responding to this, I already know you're either going to try to focus on one point I made that wasn't completely airtight or you're going to spin/whatabout this bullshit.
Pruedrive t1_ixkc3o5 wrote
> The far-right is eating this tidbit up and using this to simultaneously deflect blame of incitement from themselves while reinforcing their anti-LGBTQ+ vilification campaign. But here’s the problem: what we already know about Anderson Lee Aldrich contradicts this new non-binary claim. There is absolutely no documented history of Aldrich’s gender identity being non-binary or Aldrich’s preferred pronouns being they/them. What we do know about Anderson Lee Aldrich suggests that Aldrich identifies as a male, uses he/him pronouns, and is a vicious homophobe that uses the anti-gay slur “fggot” constantly. The far-right is eating this tidbit up and using this to simultaneously deflect blame of incitement from themselves while reinforcing their anti-LGBTQ+ vilification campaign. But here’s the problem: what we already know about Anderson Lee Aldrich contradicts this new non-binary claim. There is absolutely no documented history of Aldrich’s gender identity being non-binary or Aldrich’s preferred pronouns being they/them. What we do know about Anderson Lee Aldrich suggests that Aldrich identifies as a male, uses he/him pronouns, and is a vicious homophobe that uses the anti-gay slur “fggot” constantly.
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