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Dank_Birds_ t1_iy6naiq wrote

Reply to comment by tdigren in Eversource, United Illuminating have spent millions to lobby Connecticut lawmakers by Toybasher

People in CT can’t get past local and state republicans in CT being different than some conservative federal house member in Texas. They vote for democrats because orange man bad and election denier wack job in Arizona bad. May help to make both sides work for a vote rather than handing it to whatever connected democrat is in line next.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy6x1yp wrote

I get what you're saying, but the problem is that local Republicans won't go against the party. They won't stand up to the insanity. Instead, they act and function as one, and thereby enable the crazies in their own party. So some CT Republican may well be an outstanding individual who would work hard for his constituents, he won't do anything but enable the nutters in his own party. Therefore, how can you vote for them, knowing that your vote will get translated to a tacit approval of the extremes in the party?

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spmahn t1_iy7xc07 wrote

> local Republicans won't go against the party

Why would your local politicians spend any time at all on national issues which have literally no impact on what they’re going to do in Hartford?

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Myotherside t1_iy7r8tf wrote

Politics is mostly fake, parties are just there to provide capital and ballot access to chosen insiders and block outsiders from successfully participating in politics.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy7utaw wrote

It’s a shame that so many like you share this belief. Politics is absolutely anything but fake—just ask the millions of women who can’t get abortions any longer and are being forced to carry to term their rapists’ child, or brain dead fetuses, or their father’s/brother’s/other relative’s child.

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Myotherside t1_iyb5o26 wrote

Under a democratic president and in many states new abortion laws were signed into law by democratic governors. And when it comes to other critically important issues they are totally useless. Just give me a break with the political apologetics. Most of these political narratives are just that: narratives.

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Dank_Birds_ t1_iy7z2nx wrote

Politics is real. The only reason this is an issue in conservative states is because the democrats failed to see through their prior promises. They knew if roe was ever overturned or challenged that it would be great politically so they did nothing. It’s an issue that will get a moderate women to vote democrat. That’s why it was never a legislative priority at the federal level when Obama and Joe could’ve secured it. The vast majority of America is fine with common sense abortion laws. The issue again is liberal democrats that say dumb things that get repeated on Fox News… like allowing elective late stage abortion for no medical purpose.

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Spooky2000 t1_iy7xg1f wrote

Less than 1% of all abortions are from rape or incest. But go on...

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy87qo6 wrote

This comes from a study done in 1987, where 1900 women were surveyed. It’s hardly representative of today’s statistics. But even if it were, 1% (using 1987 numbers…nearly 40 years out of date) represents something like 16,000 women per year. So you’d be okay with 16,000 women each year being forced to give birth to their rapists’ child?

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WhittlingDan t1_iyac869 wrote

They painted themselves in the corner on this. If they want to claim abortion is murder they can't very well claim that it doesn't count just because the father was/is a rapist/cousin...

I'm Pro-choice. If they claim any exception but medical is ok then they are contradicting their abortion is murder claim. So I wonder what part they are lying about? Reminds me of when I heard Roe Vs Wade was settled, by a Republican, only to overturn it.

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Spooky2000 t1_iy885o0 wrote

>So you’d be okay with 16,000 women each year being forced to give birth to their rapists’ child?

No, I'm not. But almost every state still has exceptions for these things along with the health of the mother.

If democrats really cared, they would have codified abortion sometime in the last 50 years, but they don't. They just want to use it as a political tool.

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WhittlingDan t1_iyacxpo wrote

So are you saying your ok with abortion for rape/incest and mothers health but nothing else?

Do you not believe abortion is murder? How does who the father is change that? Either you believe its murder or it isnt?

Im pro choice and consistent or should I say pro-choice and honest?

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Dank_Birds_ t1_iy80esd wrote

That’s no different than voting democrat over and over again securing the looney left. No ultra conservative Republican could win a seat in CT so I don’t understand your concern. CT is just an auto win for whatever person is on the democratic ticket. These people are typically just connected friends of prior politicians that moved up or out. In a two party system CT would be better off swinging back and forth to ensure neither extreme gets a hold they use for personal gain. Many CT Dems are just trying to get to DC the easy way.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy870ws wrote

You’re presenting a false equivalence, though. Just because the behavior appears similar (Democrats voting and acting as a single bloc, like the Republicans do) doesn’t mean they’re the same. If you have ten people who always agree the sky is blue and ten people who agree that it’s red, the side that insists the sky is red cannot point to their opposite group and say “See? They always vote together, just like us!” Well, of course they do, because it’s a fact (that the sky is blue). They’re definitely not behaving in the same way as the group that insists the sky is red, even though it might appear that way (all voting as a single bloc).

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