AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_iub0w6i wrote
It would be embarrassing for this state to send someone to congress who can’t even say that Biden fairly won the presidency.
AGBULLBEAR t1_iubq1tk wrote
Why so insecure about a past election?
CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH t1_iuby9hj wrote
I am quite concerned about fascists running our government who won't recognize election results. If they won't recognize past elections there is no reason to trust that they will recognize future elections.
These people want to end democracy in America. They want to destroy our country, our way of life, our right to vote. They are traitors to America and want to replace it with a dictatorship where our votes aren't counted.
We know that this is what they want, because it is what they tried to do in 2020 and what any election denier is implicitly promising to do in the future.
AGBULLBEAR t1_iucvzrh wrote
It just seems to happen every election, usually democrats are questioning results though. Like Russia stole it from Hillary or Bush didnt win FL. Also the GA governor race results were also denied by Dems. Guess you just need to live a little longer, but it doesn’t seems like a big deal.
Hendrix811 t1_iuc1mdh wrote
Are you also concerned about Hillary Clinton’s Election denials and subsequent collusion with the FBI to wire tap and attempt to overthrow a sitting president?
CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH t1_iuc2jvx wrote
Hillary Clinton never denied that Trump won the electoral college. She never tried to overthrow the results and install herself as the unelected dictator, which is precisely what Trump did try to do.
There was an attempt to legally impeach Trump. That is within our constituent. But facts don't matter to fascists like you. Go to China or Russia you bootlicking, dictator worshipping, fascist. You clearly despise America and everything that we stand for.
Hendrix811 t1_iudggjz wrote
I simply asked if you hold your party to the same standards as the party you oppose. You clearly don’t.
AGBULLBEAR t1_iucw5zh wrote
She called it a stolen election 100x times. Still feels that way also.
CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH t1_iud06e8 wrote
Cite an example of her saying the 2016 election was stolen.
AGBULLBEAR t1_iudbqyj wrote
"You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," she said to cheers on the Los Angeles stop of her "Evening with the Clintons" tour with her husband, former President Bill Clinton.
Not hard to google this example and others
CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH t1_iudmf7f wrote
At no point did she say that the vote tallies were really in her favor. She said that unfair election meddling by the FBI and the Russians harmed her campaign and caused to vote to go against her. At no point did she suggest that she should have been installed as President even though the electoral college voted against her.
In no way was that an attempt to overthrow a sitting president and end democracy. Which is exactly what Trump tried.
happyjammy123 t1_iub6r80 wrote
I find it hard to believe that all Republicans think Biden stole the election
SomaCityWard t1_iubj7dw wrote
You do? A majority of republicans running in this midterm are election deniers:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republicans-trump-election-fraud/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/10/06/elections-deniers-midterm-elections-2022/
happyjammy123 t1_iubl9bl wrote
Well I can only speak for myself. I accepted the results then and still do. I just don't believe all Republicans are election deniers. I'm not saying there isn't any but I also recognize that there are election deniers from 2016, but I don't believe all Democrats are election deniers either
SomaCityWard t1_iuf6o0j wrote
Who claimed that all republicans are election deniers?
You were responding to somebody who simply said it would be a shame if we sent one to congress.
Who are the election deniers from 2016? Clinton conceded.
AGBULLBEAR t1_iubq51y wrote
I remember more dems denying bush won in FL
SamuraiPanda19 t1_iudxk20 wrote
Are you retarded? is the Florida’s Supreme Court making the counters stop counting the votes the same thing as saying the ghost of Hugo Chavez and other dead communists are switching the votes inside the voting machine?
AGBULLBEAR t1_iue83k3 wrote
If you don’t understand the example try the 2016 russia stole the election narrative
SamuraiPanda19 t1_iue8opn wrote
Yes that’s literally what I’m commenting about. The dems thing was Russia made memes on Facebook and it’s impossible to know how much that actually influenced people. A lot different than saying communists ghosts went into voting machines and changed the votes
happyjammy123 t1_iubqueb wrote
I remember that as well
happyjammy123 t1_iubmrd9 wrote
FatherofZeus t1_iubxs60 wrote
Did you even read this garbage? Lmfao
>Democrats have undercut the strengthening of election laws designed to safeguard against corruption by claiming voter suppression. Usually this is done by falsely claiming Republicans are trying to disenfranchise Black voters.
>Democrats also damage the election process each time they suggest the Electoral College is unfair.
How are either of those remotely similar to what the MAGAs are doing? JFC
SamuraiPanda19 t1_iudxtn5 wrote
They genuinely don’t understand asking if Russia made Facebook memes that may have influenced votes is the same thing as saying the votes in the voting machine were just overturned, even in the races where republicans won and Biden lost. Imagine how much of a loser you’d have to be as an elected official to actually go along with that
happyjammy123 t1_iubz6rw wrote
I was just pointing out that election denying has been going on by both parties long before 2020 that's all I was looking to point out. I honestly can't answer the question you posed about MAGA weirdoes I don't associate with those criminals
FatherofZeus t1_iuc0csz wrote
That article cites that Democrat’s deny elections because Democrats fight against disenfranchising black voters and correctly say that the electoral college system is inherently unfair.
That is not election denying and you need to pull your head out.
The BoTh SiDeS anti-intellectualism is taking us straight to hell
happyjammy123 t1_iuc0ux1 wrote
It's in the title, that Dems have a long history of election denialism
FatherofZeus t1_iuc2ewd wrote
And that’s as far as you read… lmao
happyjammy123 t1_iuc2phl wrote
What's the sense my point has been made lol
SomaCityWard t1_iuf74du wrote
Something being claimed in a title does not make it true.
ImNotAnybodyShhhhhhh t1_iud4xkq wrote
There’s a difference between a baseline grasp of arithmetic, and doing a tantrum so hard it makes you a literal terrorist. Sure, they’re both technically demonstrations of the same vague thing, but to conflate them is just… why have you hit send on so many replies like this is okay of you?
gatogrande t1_iubn4m9 wrote
So is Hilly…so is Stacy Abraham’s…not invented by republicans. Hanging chad anyone?
SomaCityWard t1_iuf7l5p wrote
Hillary conceded the election THE NEXT DAY.
Stacy Abrahm's opponent was also overseeing the election he was running in. The conflict of interest was as plain as day. And she also conceded. Why are you lying?
Why did the GOP court stop the recount if they had nothing to hide? Hanging chad, indeed.
gatogrande t1_iuia0rn wrote
Here's some lies - https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/03/politics/stacey-abrams-concession-2018-georgia/index.html and Hilly and her 4 year baseless Russian probe - https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/oct/05/glenn-youngkin/did-democrats-suggest-2016-presidential-election-w/ - TLDR : Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level."
happyjammy123 t1_iubptzg wrote
Oh yes I forgot about those hanging Chad's, bothersome little buggers
AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_iub912i wrote
I would too but, when asked whether he believes Biden fairly won, Logan refused to give a straight answer.
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