giant_toad42 t1_itzgvdh wrote on October 27, 2022 at 1:15 PM

>Kevin Blacker (Green)
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>I don’t know. The reason I don’t know is because I do not understand what the United States’ true motivation behind our involvement in Ukraine is.

What an idiot. It's: "basic human decency" and standing up to an autocrat committing war crimes.

Bigbossrabbit t1_iu07hw0 wrote on October 27, 2022 at 4:16 PM

Questioning motives behind war is always fair, and peace should always be the number 1 priority. I don’t see an issue with at least asking questions about America’s involvement in any war. Especially when our motivations frequently line up with massive profits for defense contractors and death for the poor.

Humbabwe t1_iu09q7y wrote on October 27, 2022 at 4:31 PM

Agreed. But for once we have a pretty clear cut case. Pretending there might be nefarious reasons behind it is not helpful.

Bigbossrabbit t1_iu0bmu3 wrote on October 27, 2022 at 4:43 PM

Sure, as long as peace talks are a prerequisite and aren’t met with “OMG YOU LOVE RUSSIA” nah man I just love not ending the world. The progressives retracting their call for looking into peace options was pathetic. It’s sad to see how fast even democrats can turn to frothing war hawks.

Humbabwe t1_iu0c8eq wrote on October 27, 2022 at 4:47 PM

Russia went into this with the idea of taking, with force, several eastern regions of Ukraine and you think people saying “no” to “peace talks” that are centered around that being the outcome are being unreasonable? The troll farms must be ramping up again, but what are you getting paid with? Nesting dolls?

Old_Size9060 t1_iu158ok wrote on October 27, 2022 at 7:54 PM

Agreed, but then that requires also honestly reckoning with the USA’s foreign policy and not being blind to it - the USA has engaged in all kinds of nefarious wars, coups, assassinations, etc. Pretending that we don’t have a strategic interest in Ukraine is not the answer.