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Mathews1297 t1_jb55okr wrote

Reply to comment by Pruedrive in It’s Complicated: The conflicting laws around guns and weed by CTInsideInvestigator

From my understanding, in the atf application it asks if you are a user or had been a user of illegal substances. They keep it broad and cannabis would fall in that umbrella because federally illegal. It’s what kept me away from trying.

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jb5i7ig wrote

Check no. States have rights, and if it's not illegal in your state, it's not illegal (imo but I'm not a lawyer). "have you ever been arrested for a felony" if you weren't convicted (or got youthful offender or accelerated rehab) check "no", this was advice from an attorney.

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Toybasher t1_jb5l400 wrote

The background check form actually has a little thing mentioning it's still illegal federally even if legal in your state.

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jb5n2o5 wrote

When I got mine it wasn't legal anywhere. If you want to tattle on yourself, go ahead. Half that form is designed to self incriminate. F 'em. You on a pot "list" somewhere?

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jamalamadangdong t1_jb6ejs4 wrote

I meeeeeean if you purchase from a dispensary don’t they take record of it? They put caps on how much you can purchase in a given amount of time so it wouldn’t surprise me

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jb6fb7w wrote

I purchase lots of alcohol and food I don’t eat or drink. Last I knew it wasn’t illegal to keep booze in my house for guests.I don’t know of any law says I can’t offer adult guests at my house a gummy.

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jamalamadangdong t1_jb7qiit wrote

Oh I'm not justifying the rule. Just noting that I'm fairly sure they take record of your purchase

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jb7rfcc wrote

And I'm just saying they can take a record, it doesn't mean the purchaser used it. I have several bottles of liquor at my house I never drink. I buy and keep them specifically for friends that come over.

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jamalamadangdong t1_jb9m0fv wrote

Wait, so why do you buy extra bottles if you’re not drinking them?

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jban6fz wrote

And.. They're not "extra" bottles... I don't drink Crown Apple, but a buddy of mine does. So looking at my purchase history of Crown Apple would lead you to the wrong conclusion of what I drink, but there's always a bottle in my house for Jimmy.

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jba6qsw wrote

So my friends who come over have their favorite drink while we sit around the firepit.

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Toybasher t1_jbbdq17 wrote

Never used the stuff, never plan to. (nor do I touch alcohol. Family has a huge history of addicts in it so I'd rather not start drinking/using substances.)

I personally think we should deschedule Marijuana from the controlled substances at least, as it doesn't seem much worse than alcohol, and I imagine far more accidents happen because booze was mixed with firearms compared to marijuana being mixed with firearms.

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jbbhuib wrote

I'm not proposing mixing them either, but having a glass of wine with my wife out to dinner doesn't prevent/jeopardise my pistol permit, nor should any other legal activity.

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1234nameuser t1_jb61uni wrote

I read the form, despite the Federal disclaimer, the form clearly does not ask you to answer on the basis of either Federal or States rights.....it just leaves an empty assumption that you will be answering based on their federal disclaimer.

You can read the form, understand it's illegal under federal law, yet still check the box on the basis of your understanding under states rights. The form doesn't say anything about that.......just have a good lawyer ;)

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Mr_Smith_411 t1_jb62wbj wrote

The feds dont grant permits. That's the states. They're trying to get you to self incriminate.

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Mathews1297 t1_jb5ii0m wrote

There was but I forgot what state, recently Supreme Court ruled that cannabis users shouldn’t/couldn’t be discriminated against their 2nd amendment rights. But that’s good to know that’s what I assumed before until I heard otherwisw

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