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phejster t1_iu02qum wrote

If they're running as a Republican, they're not moderate.

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phejster t1_iu0321g wrote

Even if they're not fascists, they're ok with whatever the fascists want to do. That's not moderate that's unamerican.

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Sonofbunny t1_iu0isv5 wrote

If you're in a room with 2 fascists and 5 fascist sympathizers, you're in a room with 7 fascists

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Skulbalski t1_itxfnst wrote

He has always been a moderate. Fail.

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setho212 t1_itzoi5c wrote

Kittleman has traded developer money for conservative wealthy Columbia and western county money. If you want to know who is funding the Kittleman campaign take a trip over to the Howard County Neighbors United group on Facebook. It is a cesspool of wealthy Republican grievance politics. A bunch of well off people claiming they are the true victims of policies aimed at benefitting the less well off, minorities, immigrants, and LGBTQ people.

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No-Organization6449 t1_itxknan wrote

And Calvin Ball is trying to convince people he is not corrupt and unethical!

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lyndonbasedjohnson t1_ity1lc5 wrote

and Allan Kittleman is trying to convince people he’s not funding problematic groups and inviting ICE back into Howard County

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No-Organization6449 t1_itzq04s wrote

Why is it "problematic" to enforce the law? Are you and anarchist or Antifa?

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Nottheface1337 t1_iu06s58 wrote

Well…. Get out and vote folks. This troglodyte prob will ^^. And will probably deny any election his peeps don’t win.

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No-Organization6449 t1_iu0dyyx wrote

You still have not explained why it is "problematic" to enforce the law. I would love to hear your explanation. Are you capable of providing one? Are you just a sock puppet?

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Nottheface1337 t1_iu0jxd5 wrote

I’m not -an- anarchist but I would certainly consider myself anti-fascism.If anti-fascism isn’t what you are referring to then I may need you to define the specter that you are referring to. I have very little interest in a meta ethics discussion with you though on how authority is exerted illegitimately for political purposes or to end up discussing how soldiers are not required to follow unjust orders during war. (Clearly this is not a war, this is legitimate immigration characterized as an attack to reduce the individuals to “less than” status so my jus in bello push is illegitimate imo. There are probably a few sides to the argument but I doubt there is any flexibility in your stance. For me personally…give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free functions as it was written. I have no need to exclude individuals who may become the public charge. No sock puppet here…but…Try a finger up your butt once. It might bring some pleasure into what is obviously a scary world where what you knew as normal is slipping away. Much love fellow Marylander ❤️

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i_live_in_maryland t1_iu2c649 wrote

An honest attempt at a reasonable/civil answer:

I think being a "sanctuary" community has little to do with whether or how immigration laws should be enforced. What is critically important is that these communities are already here. While they are here, they need to feel they can trust the local government and the local police to address local issues.

If someone who is "mexican" looking gets assulted in this county, I 100% want them to report that to police and I want them to get medical attention from EMTs or HoCoGeneral. I don't want Police, EMTs, or Doctors trying to call ICE on someone they are supposed to be helping because that person speaks spanish or whatever. And this isn't just illegals, this impacts people who live near them or are friends with them, or legals who don't speak good english and are scared of getting into expensive court trouble despite their having legal status. It happens. All. the. time.

And you shouldn't want that either. The reason "sanctuary communities" exist is because having local police indistingiuishable from ICE means that policing effectively doesn't exist for this huge swath of people. What happens when you have no police? Anarchy, every police loving conservative should know that.

AND "sanctuary" doesn't prevent ICE from doing their job. And if there is other crime (drugs, human trafficking, etc) mixed up with illegals then you can bet local PD will be all over it anyway.

tl;dr Let the PD work for the people who are living here (no matter where they are from) and let ICE worry about whether those people are allowed to live here or not.

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Baltisotan t1_iu0jk4y wrote

Oh yes, “following orders” just a wonderful get out of jail free card for all sorts of heinous acts.

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