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CJYP t1_ivbaxlj wrote

Those people are in cars and can kill me. Bikes can't do that. If you want to go against the evidence I posted that it's safer, you're going to have to provide counter evidence of some sort.

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CostcoBrandDinosaur t1_ivbbb3q wrote

Counter evidence: I've been hit twice (once resulting in physical therapy) by bikes while crossing in a crosswalk while I have the right of way. Once in Boston near BU, and once in Central Square. Despite that, I still support bike lanes, I still support bus lanes, I still support all of it.

It doesn't change the fact that everyone is an asshole when transiting in this state and if you want the Idaho Stop to be a thing here then get it passed and in the books.

And just to be clear, for whatever reason, my primary and preferred mode of transit is the T

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CJYP t1_ivbbqpf wrote

Anecdotes aren't evidence. But even if they were, that anecdote wouldn't be - if you're treating the red light like a stop sign, you still wouldn't go while people are crossing. So that behavior would be illegal even if Idaho Stop was legal.

I agree that everyone is an asshole while transiting in this state. I don't agree that the law trumps safety.

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CostcoBrandDinosaur t1_ivbebav wrote

"I don't care what the law says I'm doing my own thing" really sums up every discussion about bikes/cars around here.

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CJYP t1_ivbextf wrote

I'm not going to sacrifice my safety (or others safety) at the altar of the law. I'm just not. The law isn't some sacred thing that's worth dying for.

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IntelligentCicada363 t1_ivc0nv6 wrote

Fair enough. There are people trying to get it on the books but MA has a very car obsessed culture. I always stop and stay stopped at red lights because I don’t want to be “that cyclist”, but that is really the only reason. I have frequently had to deal with very unsafe scenarios (an uber car blocking the bike lane) that would have been much safer if I had been able to get out ahead of the stopped cars.

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CostcoBrandDinosaur t1_ivc209b wrote

Yeah I'm glad we're improving our infrastructure to make things safer. Still a ways to go though and I wish we'd spend more on our public transit infrastructure to meet the goal of getting the ever increasing number of cars off the road.

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