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TiPirate t1_j76bi04 wrote

Starting its life in the desert is the key. There are none of these left in the northeast. Keep undercoated and keep a spare head gasket in the shed.

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Woodbutcher31 t1_j76itpn wrote

No, I’m in NJ, have a similar 22yo Jeep I bought new. Drove it on muddy job sites everyday to the beach,mountains,4wheeled camping+big dogs. It’s still running- I want a new one but can’t justify the money when my girl still runs like a champ. Yeah a few dents and dings, starting to get some rust. The headliners saggy.. but she starts an runs every Day. Scary to think if a new one will ever be half as dependable.

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libertarian_hiker t1_j793y0v wrote

That's crazy talk. I see more Xj's on the road in Connecticut than any other vehicle from the 90's

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TiPirate t1_j7anr3q wrote

Makes sense. You’re way southwest of me. 😉

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NydNugs t1_j7a2iov wrote

You always need head bolts too cus they stretch when removed.

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Beautiful-Page3135 t1_j76hn5x wrote

I think the key piece that people forget about is that maintenance includes environmental considerations. If you live in the rust belt, you definitely want to make an annual trip to Ziebart for the rust treatment. My truck is almost a decade old and has been treated annually, no rust issues beyond minor surface rust; a guy four doors down from me has the same model year and never treated his, and it's losing whole body panels to rust.

Most vehicles are mechanically sound and will run a long time as long as they're cared for. I had a Lincoln Town Car that died with 999,997 on the ODO and I was really only upset because it hadn't ticked over before it died.

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humvee911 t1_j75quav wrote

I wonder how long cars of this generation will last. It might actually get to BIFL point

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acchaladka t1_j76gdbn wrote

My 1989 Porsche had 180 000 on it when I sold it a couple of years ago and drove like new, maybe better because of some upgrade parts. Some of this year's electrics (I think Tesla and maybe Nissan) have mostly aluminium in the body, ie lots less to rust. With the simplicity of electric setups, my money would be on them lasting longest. If you replace everything as you go however, you have an old car with old safety tech. My Porsche was great but tended to burn to the ground because of fuel line placement, and had no airbags let alone pre-crash tech or crumple zones to cope with the normal massive SUVs out there. So, not sure if one would actually want a BIFL car.

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MossadHitman t1_j76jbmo wrote

Not at all. The batteries in these new cars/products are not meant to last more than 10 years. Tesla is a total scam of a company propped up with California GOV grants and massive tax subsidies..ask any financial analyst.

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acchaladka t1_j76l8jk wrote

I don't disagree - I follow Mariana Mazzucato's point, that most American innovation is government invented or funded - but that has essentially nothing to do with my point here. Batteries are replaceable and will be routinely replaced and recycled, like any consumable.

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MossadHitman t1_j76lpzz wrote

You are right about American innovation being mostly gov funded. But I urge you to do research into Tesla battery cells. They are 100% not easily replaceable and Tesla has NEVER even released the information / battery content on them is highly classified. They also use tamper proof technology/tamper proof screws like apple so that they cannot be changed by a 3rd party or individual. Tesla also does NOT allow anyone to do repairs on their vehicles. ONLY Tesla can repair used or broken vehicles. It's highly controversial if you look into it.

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infinitum3d t1_j76d275 wrote

If you properly maintain something, or should last way longer than average.

I think that’s the thing most people don’t do. They expect something to last forever while completely neglecting/abusing it.

My Prius is 13 years old and I’ve driven it across the country coast to coast seven times. I take good care of it so it should last another 13 years.

But cars should be replaced eventually just because safety features improve so much.

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Such-Shape-7111 t1_j78c2dj wrote

I agree. I let go of my 2003 Toyota Corolla and moved up to a 2023 Subaru legacy based on safety alone. I will pay whatever is reasonable for our family’s safety in the event of a bad accident.

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purple_adv t1_j78ki15 wrote

Nothing against Honda or Toyota, but Subaru and Volvo make the safest cars. I will admit you usually end up paying a bit more either up front or in maintenance, but reliability is comparable. Considering switching from Volvo after over a decade and Subaru was my first consideration.

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Such-Shape-7111 t1_j78svqu wrote

I agree, another reason we went with Subaru is their VIP program for select employers. Mine allows me to get invoice pricing on any car. Go to vip.Subaru.com and enter your work email.

We just scored our Legacy Premium for 27k from 32k (We wanted a few option packages).

Extremely happy with the car, my wife feels super safe, the standard eyesight is annoying with all the buzzing but that’s a small inconvenience compared to an accident.

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ChalupaCabre t1_j75tobo wrote

What’s the mileage?

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gundam2017 OP t1_j76pyd7 wrote

144k

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ChalupaCabre t1_j770jjb wrote

Not bad.. fairly lightly driven at only 7,000 miles per year.

Was it owned by someone older? I find they often drive very little and baby their vehicles.

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gundam2017 OP t1_j77pcje wrote

His grandpa.low miles but Definitely was adventuring the nevada mountains for a good long while.

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zap_p25 t1_j77jk9g wrote

My 99 has roughly 160k on it. I don't drive it much though (the running joke is it hasn't seen a paved road in over a decade). Aside from clear coat issues...it's been relatively problem free in the 15 years I've had it.

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traviejeep t1_j75s9m9 wrote

These jeeps have a nearly indestructible 4.0L straight 6. If maintained they would probably run forever

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zap_p25 t1_j77j6wa wrote

4.0L's are actually known for averaging around 300,0000 miles between rebuilds.

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357050 t1_j76lftp wrote

Undercoat it. Use a product like Fluid Film.

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lostcatlurker t1_j77d0j2 wrote

How’s the clear coat holding up?

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gundam2017 OP t1_j77pa72 wrote

Absolutely horrible. It's been sand blasted with desert storms. Eventually we will repaint it white

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Hugh-Mungus-Richard t1_j76vn2w wrote

Thing probably has been death wobbly for the past 12 years and the motor produces more heat than horsepower.

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gundam2017 OP t1_j76w5gk wrote

No death wobble! Some steering slack but we are fixing that. And idgaf about how much HP it puts out

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Hugh-Mungus-Richard t1_j76xnab wrote

Dude, I'm happy you like your vehicle. But don't kid yourself into thinking any vehicle is "for life". There will be a time that scrap value is going to look better than repair cost and that's likely to occur. After all, this was designed at the height of planned obsolescence.

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CapeManiac t1_j76ynsi wrote

That AMC era engine is fucking bulletproof.

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r2d3x9 t1_j8k0c8n wrote

Cerberus and Mercedes and Fiat and Stelentis have destroyed Chrysler. For example, a 2008 Caravan required about double the expected maintenance and had more recalls than you could imagine. Including ignition switches failing while you are driving down the road

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Snuggledtoopieces t1_j77uzfd wrote

Congrats you are about to watch that hero age more in 3 years then it has in the previous 20.

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