BIFL Miele TCR780WP Heat Pump Tumble Dryer

Submitted by b1tchlasagna t3_10a0i8w in BuyItForLife

So I've recently bought a Miele TCR780WP heat pump tumble dryer

https://www.pauldavieskitchensandappliances.co.uk/miele-tcr780wp-freestanding-condenser-heat-pump-tumble-dryer-white.html

Interestingly, even ao.com don't have that model yet and it's a bit of a shame because they normally have 0% offers

Delivery was £15. I bought this because

  • It's rated A+++-10%

  • It has intelligent drum reversal

  • It's a Miele

  • The only other machines that have those features, are LGs and Samsungs. They're less than half the price but have terrible reliability issues

  • Given it's Miele they'll probably last a very long time too

  • This was the cheapest place on the interwebs and they allow 0% PayPal credit. It isn't even on the ao.com website which is surprising

  • The WiFi functionality is somewhat useful too, because it means I can get a lodger to move stuff into the tumble dryer, and then I can select the program remotely. The lodger I've got doesn't know how to use either a washing machine or a tumble dryer

I've also got a Miele washing machine. That's here

https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/109yq83

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Buffalo_Cottage t1_j41jfcn wrote

I'm really interested in this! Do you like it?

We're in the market for a new dryer and were considering a Speed Queen. But these seem super energy efficient, so they're a strong contender. I'm in the US and wondering how hard it will be to find someone who knows how to service a heat pump dryer, though.

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b1tchlasagna OP t1_j41lmzs wrote

I do indeed. Honestly, if Beko, Hotpoint, Haier or Bosch had the same features including the same efficiency (I'm not too fussed about WiFi however), I'd go with them

One thing I can't quite get to work is the "Wash to dry" function so I've contacted Miele

Beko and Hotpoint are on the cheaper end of the market but the Whirlpool group do have genuinely decent appliances. My dishwasher is made by Beko too

Haier is a Chinese company but they do seem quite a high end Chinese company. They also don't have the same features as the Miele that I wanted

I'd make sure your Speed Queen has the ability to reverse the direction of the drum.

I do quite like that it's A+++-10% too, largely because I've also got solar panels and the less energy used, the better

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-cat_attack- t1_j41rwkq wrote

I'm very jealous of people who have space to have their laundry equipment inside their house so they can have heat pump dryers as an option. My laundry equipment is in the garage, so a heat pump wouldn't work unless I insulated and heated that portion of the garage. I did consider it, but I mostly hang dry my laundry except bedding, so the cost wasn't worth it to me. I was surprised to learn that heat pump dryers don't work in a garage since I have a heat pump water heater in my garage.

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b1tchlasagna OP t1_j41uqve wrote

FWIW, my parents have one in the cellar which is as cold as a garage. It works pretty well

They stop working so well when you get below 5C which is quite rare, at least in the UK

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-cat_attack- t1_j41vztr wrote

I do not live in the UK. It gets colder than 5 deg C where I live.

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b1tchlasagna OP t1_j420gtg wrote

That's fair. I guess parts of Canada would do that? Does it get below 5C regularly?

If it only goes below 5C a few days in a year, it's not too bad

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-cat_attack- t1_j421sh4 wrote

I don't live in Canada either. It's definitely regularly below 5 deg C for the high temperature in Canada.

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b1tchlasagna OP t1_j424geq wrote

Ah damn. That's a massive shame then. I'd hope they do get better because heat pumps used to not even work in the UK but the technology has moved on since then

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Tack122 t1_j42eozi wrote

The dynamics get even better in the south, where we absolutely need air conditioning.

Heat pump water heater in the house means cheap hot water and free air conditioning.

I haven't picked one yet but it's coming soon, before summer!

I'd really like one I can duct to a external air supply/exhaust in the winter, I have yet to select a model.

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-cat_attack- t1_j42hduh wrote

My water heater is ducted to vent outside of the garage. It looks quite similar to a normal dryer vent, but the ducting is a much larger diameter.

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PuzzleheadedLow4687 t1_j42p8d9 wrote

Ouch. I was I interested until I saw the price! Half that may have been worth it.

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b1tchlasagna OP t1_j42zxuz wrote

I get that. The only brands that have those same functions are LG, and Samsung. I'm like screw that. They are half the price but I'm not gonna use LG or Samsung appliances

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layyze t1_j43jbec wrote

We've had the Miele heat pump dryer for a couple of years now. The ability to plug it into a standard 120v outlet is fantastic.

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grumble11 t1_j474hls wrote

Miele as a brand is tough - it's super high quality and does tend to last a lot longer, but it's super, super expensive. I was looking at fridges and the Miele 36 inch french door freestanding counter depth fridge (a common size to buy these days in North America) is like 16k CAD plus tax. A midrange mass-market brand equivalent is like 3-4k. Yes, the Miele will work a little better, yes, the Miele will last longer, but the repair bill for a Miele is really steep and the upfront cost is painful. I'm having a hard time justifying the differential.

If the math was even close then I'd buy the Miele purely to avoid replacing an appliance in ten years (which I HATE doing for waste, ecological and hassle reasons), since it should last more like 15-20. This is just such a huge difference it's frustrating as a gap to bridge.

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b1tchlasagna OP t1_j478bkj wrote

I'm with you on that. I can get behind

  • Miele ovens

  • Miele hobs

  • Miele tumble dryers

  • Mile washing machines

  • Miele dishwashers

I can't however get behind :

  • Miele coffee machines

  • Miele microwaves

  • Miele fridge freezers

  • Miele vacuum cleaners

Largely for the same reasons you've stated as well as the fact that the vacuum cleaners apparently don't have amazing build quality . That, and when it comes to refrigeration, Haier do make some quality stuff. The French door that you're describing is what we'd call "American fridge freezers" here

Also even though I say I can get behind a Miele dishwasher, I could only get behind it, if I was using a dishwasher daily, which I'm not. The solar save function isn't enough to tempt me given my Beko cost £200 (RRP £350)

An A rated dishwasher over my D rated dishwasher would potentially be worth buying IF used daily, given that would currently save £70/year assuming April 2023 prices

When electricity prices were more reasonable at 15p/kWh instead of the expected 54p/kWh in April, it'd be a mere £17/year saving and that's only if you're using it daily. The D rated one uses 0.85 kWh a cycle. The A rated ones use 0.54 kWh a cycle

What is however better for dishwashers in my experience, is using powder instead of tablets. If I use tablets, I have to use the "intensive" mode. I can get away with "standard" or even "eco" when using powder

I also wouldn't go for a "dialogue oven" when it's nearly £10K!

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