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siouxze t1_ivleexy wrote

Reply to comment by aKnightWh0SaysNi in My Rival crock pot 3150. 50-ish years old and still cooking family dinners without a hitch by RooshunVodka

Got a credible source for proof that it is anyone has ever been harmed by its "toxicity"? Or are you parroting what you read in a comment somewhere?

I have been eating meals prepared out if one of these beasts for 35 years and never once have I tested positive for lead on my bloodwork or fallen ill. They were a staple in most american homes for a very long time, yet there were never any hysterics about everyone testing positive for lead. Maybe because whatever lead that could be leeched from it is neglible at best and nothing to worry about?

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KakkaKarrot t1_ivlhlls wrote

>They were a staple in most american homes for a very long time, yet there were never any hysterics about everyone testing positive for lead.

Believe it or not most people weren't even particularly concerned when the dangers of leaded gasoline were revealed.

I wouldn't defer to the average citizen for tips on risk aversion, because the average citizen is an uneducated bufoon, especially back in the 70s when they were making this stuff

>Maybe because whatever lead that could be leeched from it is neglible at best and nothing to worry about?

Maybe. But I'm also just not interested in being the test case for delayed onset poisoning from lead paint to save $50 on a Crockpot

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siouxze t1_ivpechz wrote

All you had to say was "No. I do not have a credible source"

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KakkaKarrot t1_ivpszr6 wrote

You're looking for a source that some of these Crockpots have lead paint glaze?

Because I'm fairly certain you can even look up your serial number to find out

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sir_ramen t1_ivlhhhc wrote

In regards to it being a possible fire hazard; all 'modern' slow cookers have a ground prong, and this model doesn't. I don't know why there's a difference, or if it matters (maybe the method of heating is different), but that is likely the reason for the hysteria about it being a fire hazard.

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siouxze t1_ivpe1ew wrote

Fun fact: Appliances can be rewired!

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a1b3c3d7 t1_ivo040q wrote

As a pathologist, some of what you’ve said conflicts with how things are in medicine.

You don’t test positive for lead poisoning through something like this. For incremental heavy metal poisoning the effects take years to decades to onset, but even then its difficult to directly attribute medical complications to it because its something that patients won’t mention when they’re giving a history because they don’t know most of the time. There is testing for trace metals but it’s expensive and rarely done from the get go for a multitude of reasons. The cdc no longer recommends testing for it unless there’s indicators that you’re at risk of it.

The immediate short term effects are soo vague that things are rarely attributed to lead poisoning, and the longer it goes on the more it becomes the baseline norm, so patients then have never lived a life different so they don’t understand that they should have more energy, less stomach aches and headaches, memory loss, reduced appetite, constipation, etc.

Eventually what happens, and we know this happens because there are long term cases and studies that prove this happens, is that people start having bigger issues like heart disease, high blood pressure, kidney disease, infertility, etc. All things that are usually more likely to be caused by something else. Again, unless there’s some indicator.. which there rarely is for cases like this.. they go through what it’s more likely to be instead. So doctors will treat these symptoms often assuming they have no direct cause (like how blood pressure is exacerbated by things but really can present in anyone) but these symptoms may continue in these situations and only get worse over time, eventually you increase your risk for cancers and heart failure, kidney failure, severe mental issues, etc. By the time the big ones come up they’ll definitely figure it out then.. but at what cost.

If you do have lead exposure chances are, eventually when you get sick.. it’s probably been heavily caused by lead poisoning to the point you probably otherwise would not have been sick.

You are correct in the sense that it could could have been a negligible amount of lead, every case is different. But what we do know is that the effects of lead poisoning are very often missed and they are difficult to trace back the longer time passes. We do know that lead poisoning causes generational health complications if there are kids involved. We do know that wherever possible, the best practice is to avoid lead exposure wherever possible.

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siouxze t1_ivtespy wrote

The FDA does not list crock pots as a lead contamination risk. I'm hoing to take their word on it over a bunch of random people on reddit.

But consumers need not fret in the dark. The FDA maintains a list of products it has tested that have revealed lead contamination. The good news: Not a single crockpot is listed.

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a1b3c3d7 t1_iw6s07b wrote

What a very poor point to make that defies basic logic.

The FDA has not, can not, and will not test every crock pot manufactured and chase every manufacturer down and make records for the last 72 years. They are not infalliable, your own source states this and that you should conduct your own tests for any vintage wares, or where possible just not use them, additionally if you look through their data, they've only tested 4 American made products... All the rest are international. The only reasonable takeaway from your source is that you should be careful... Which is all a bunch of random people on reddit are telling you.

If this basic logic is too much for you to recieve from a bunch of people over reddit then theres no helping you.

That burden of responsibility to know what your products are made of and their risks is on you, and you alone.

. The FDA also states that there is an acceptable amount of lead leech, despite lots of new peer reviewed studies suggesting that there is no safe amount of lead exposure. The FDA rules regarding the matter are not up to date, like many things these things take time to update and standardise.

Newer crockpots still have a small amount of lead leech that is well known despite this. Their answer to queries regarding this was that they are below FDA regulatory levels.

The FDA is not the be all and end all absolute governing authority on the matter, merely a guiding body.

Study 1

Study 2

An individuals investigation into lead leech and representatives comments

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ZenoofElia t1_ivmkjg1 wrote

>What Types of Toxins Affect the Thyroid? >Types of environmental toxins affecting the thyroid gland are:

>Heavy metals: Aluminum, cadmium, lead, and mercury

https://coem.com/blog/which-chemicals-cause-thyroid-problems/

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siouxze t1_ivph6l1 wrote

My thyroid problems are 100% the result of bad genetics and leaving a minor thyroid issue wildly untreated for 8+ years.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivphgrq wrote

LOL. Keep telling yourself that. Blame it on your family and take no responsibility for the range of poor choices you've made in your life.

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siouxze t1_ivpiab6 wrote

You're right, I should definitely believe your unsubstantiated hyperbolic fear mongering over my doctors and the results of getting my dna tested. What was I thinking?

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roninwarshadow t1_ivnuivb wrote

How does that prove that Crock Pots are toxic?

That link doesn't even mention Crock Pots, or even Slow Cookers.

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