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Jaded-Distance_ t1_ivl3kkb wrote

https://tamararubin.com/2020/06/vintage-rival-crock-pot-stoneware-slow-cooker-with-brown-glaze-180-ppm-lead-in-the-food-surface-14000-ppm-lead-in-the-power-cord/

Lots, especially the cords. This person states around 90ppm is the limit of "safe". The food surface of this one was 180, the exterior 4751, and the cord at 14000. Even found some antimony (which I've never heard of before) and sounds like even a tiny amount is capable of giving you some really bad stomach issues.

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thefugue t1_ivmrgez wrote

That has to be the absolute worst source I have ever seen.

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AlienDelarge t1_ivpgboi wrote

Notice its always a different new account posting it too.

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thefugue t1_ivmuhqw wrote

…and ignores how the things she tests are used. All while using the fact that she is a “mommy” to evoke some kind of expertise.

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thefugue t1_ivmvhzb wrote

I’m a million percent in favor of keeping lead out of modern products.

If a product has been out there for 60 years and it has no plausible mechanism for the lead in it to cause problems I’m also a million percent against fear mongering about it.

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siouxze t1_ivl7qjh wrote

Do you frequently scrape the paint off the exterior of your crock pot and sprinkle it into your food?

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Grubbens t1_ivla3wa wrote

Yes, when you use a spoon to get the food out. Often times the exterior wall is being scraped. Additionally, lead can probably deposit onto your food during the cooking process due to diffusion.

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siouxze t1_ivpdxjq wrote

Don't use metal utensils on any of your cookware except stainless steel your cookware and don't serve yourself food like a god damn caveman. Problem solved.

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Grubbens t1_ivprc78 wrote

Whatever helps you sleep at night, but even if you are perfect and don't expose yourself to lead via scraping, you are neglecting that diffusion is always adding poisonous amounts of lead into your food as long as you use it. I am not sure why this thread is upsetting you so much; lead has been a publicly poisonous substance for years.

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ashpatash t1_ivlrxql wrote

Lead leaches readily the longer it is exposed to something permeable next to it. Such as a bowl, bathtub, glass, jar, or this crockpot. And since that's how crockpot are meant to be used, long-term slow cooking, I would steer clear. Another example, leaded glass decanters should never hold liquor long term. This is rumored to be the cause of the fall of Rome, wine held in lead glazed pottery.

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siouxze t1_ivpgk70 wrote

Show me scientific proof that these pots are leeching lead into peoples food.

I've seen hundreds of people sing the same song as you and no one can show me proof from a credible source that these specific devices are a risk. Everyone just parrots the same bullshit they've read in other threads. Flip through this thread again. Other commenters I called out tried to find credible sources to prove me wrong, and could only find articles to prove themselves wrong. Why dont you go see if you can do better than them.

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ashpatash t1_ivqa0ay wrote

I doubt there is scientific journal article on exactly vintage slow cookers in the United States but there are numerous on ceramic glazed pottery. Simply, the standards for lead allowance in consumer goods in the US have been abysmal. Here are some generic articles on lead glazed ceramics leaching. here here and this quote from consumer reports on lead testing vintage ceramics. This includes vintage and older ceramics made before 1992, when the FDA instituted its current lead guidelines for food-safe ceramics; imported ceramics or those you bought abroad (where safety standards may be more lax); or ceramics made by hobbyist ceramicists if you’re unsure they comply with safety standards by using lead-free materials, or whether they use quality kilns that run at the high temperatures necessary to properly fuse the materials.

This investigative reporter Bill Gephardt from KUTV news did a report on exactly this, slow cookers, in 2004. Here is his twitter @gephardtgetsit but not sure if he's still alive. He seems to have website now called Gephardtdaily.com. @kslgephardt on twitter is probably family relation. I cannot find his broadcast since it's before internet news broadcasts were a thing but this article outlines his investigation and the scientific results. He even comments to author at end of article about the attempts to pass new laws related to lead in Congress. I'm sure he can be contacted if he is alive. The article author states she contacted Crock pot brand and they said yes they contain lead (but below then governments threshold in 2004). That's how they used to get around it. These levels have been amended numerous times, in the 70s and 80s their allowable lead level was much worse.

My daughter was lead poisoned in 2016. I have attended lead poisoning symposiums in Washington DC and listened to some of the top lead specialists speak on this topic. I am by no means an authority but believe them when they strongly recommend not using vintage cooking/bakeware/dishes for consumption. It was even investigated by health department when they came to my house. But gamble with it if you want. Though effects on adults still serious. Just don't gamble with a child's life.

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