Submitted by Felein t3_ygg84o in BuyItForLife

My husband's birthday is coming up, and he asked for a new pc mouse... again. He's gone through several over the last years, and the problem is the same every time: within months, the mouse will start double-clicking on a single click. My husband thinks this is because dirt gets under the button, I'm not sure, I've never had this problem myself. He currently has a Razor Naga, which started double-clicking after just a month which was really disappointing.

He uses it daily, for both work and gaming. It needs to have extra programmable buttons, the more the better.

Any recommendations are very welcome!

Also, if you think you know what's causing this issue and how to solve it, please let me know!

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Autozam_AZ-1_Waifu t1_iu8pg06 wrote

The double clicking issue occures in modern mice because the traditional fully mechanical micro switches they use (Omron D2F(C) and copies of that) are operated with vastly lower voltages and amperages than recommended by Omron and other manufacturers.

The solution to that is a mouse with optical switches (or mechanical-optical switches).

Asus has some mice that offer the advantage that the mouse is easily openable and the switches can be swapped out without any soldering, the optical switches on those have 5 pins, whereas the normal ones have 3 pins.

List of mice with optical switches

Asus: Chakram X, Gladius III (Wireless)

Cooler Master: MasterMouse MM730, MasterMouse MM731

HP: Omen Mouse Reactor

Logitech: G502 X, G502 X Lightspeed, G502 X Plus

Razer: Basilisk V2 (Pro), Basilisk V3 (Pro), Basilisk Ultimate, DeathAdder V2 (Pro), DeathAdder V3 Pro, Naga Pro/X, Viper (Mini/Ultimate), Viper V2 Pro

Roccat: Burst Core, Burst Pro (Air), Kone Pro (Air), Kone XP (Air)

SteelSeries: Prime series

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Smooth-Cost-6828 t1_iuaeyyy wrote

I’d like to just say, I love you. I’d hate to ask another question on top of this but you seem like you are in the know of this matter, but do you know of a optical mouse with the twelve thumb buttons but does not require another application to run it? I’ve had problems with the double click and recently discovered optical switch mouses and went for the razed naga but I am getting tired of the synapse and cortex crap. Regardless you are a legend and thank you for this list!

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Autozam_AZ-1_Waifu t1_iuanfyt wrote

I'm sorry, but I couldn't find any other mice with 12 or more side buttons and optical switches besides the Naga Pro & X.

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Zlivovitch t1_iubs7ac wrote

Would you know by any chance whether some of those brands are compatible with Windows 7 ? I researched Logitech and Razer mice at some point, and their customization software, which is required to use them to the full, does not support Windows 7 anymore.

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Autozam_AZ-1_Waifu t1_iucor0z wrote

Roccat drivers support Windows 7

SteelSeries will work too if you use an older driver, but apparently it will auto update itself to a newer version.

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h4x_x_x0r t1_iu8gmcy wrote

What's your budget and can you maybe probe if there's one he's already looking for? There's huge variety in what people like for peripherals especially if they use them for hours at a time, so even a great quality mouse might not be the right fit for your partner. Razor is known for not having great quality / products having them break shortly after warranty, so I personally try to avoid them.

The easy to clean part sadly also contradicts having many buttons but imho it's best to clean your mouse as soon as dirt starts to build up, so maybe add a little toolbox for cleaning with a bottle of isopropyl alcohol, a toothbrush, some q-tips and a lint-free cloth.

I've been using a Logitech G502 for years now, it's not fancy but very widespread and even though mine still works perfectly, there's tons of replacement parts online and disassembly to replace the most stressed parts (left/right mouse buttons, scroll wheel and glide pats) is really easy to do. At some point switches will wear out, since it's constantly being used so repairability is definitely helpful. Also the software isn't too terrible in comparison, which is another point, why I wouldn't recommend Razer or Corsair peripherals.

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AdditionalAttorney t1_iu8j7ni wrote

For the kit: one one of those air blowing things

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h4x_x_x0r t1_iu8jir4 wrote

Really handy for cleaning most desk / PC related things.

I don't like the compressed air cans, so I got a small battery powered air compressor/pump for air mattresses for 15€ and it's a decent replacement.

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Felein OP t1_iu8lysu wrote

Thank you so much for this reply, this is already very helpful.

Budget: I'm willing to invest in a quality product, but I'm a bit hesitant to spend really large amounts of money because mouses (mice?) have not lasted very long so far. So, maybe between €50 and €100?

As far as I know, he doesn't have one he's already looking for. No particular brand loyalty either.

Your Logitech sounds good, especially that its easy to take apart. I'll look into it!

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jlbob t1_iu9jloq wrote

My M705 is ~5 years old now with no issues. I love the feel of it.

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AlTaiR_ius t1_iu8v8px wrote

Highly recommend the Logitech G502 Hero. Have had one for years and absolutely love it. Has an awesome track wheel that can free spin. Has adjustable weights to customise for personal preference and the sensor is super accurate. I have a corded one so I can't comment on the wireless version but there is a wireless version available. The newest version is the X model but it's not as full featured as the Hero version and is made of cheaper parts. Stick with the Hero. P.s. it's for right handers

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jlbob t1_iu9kgm5 wrote

>Has an awesome track wheel that can free spin.

Can it toggle between free spin and umm bumpy/normal(?) I love that about my M705 but have been sorta looking at mice when I build a new computer. I've loved Logitech products for the last ~20 years except for their mechanical keyboards with the quick buttons on the left. I bought a Razor Blackwidow v3 because of this, and the feel of the keys. But Logitech is one of my favorite accessory manufacturers

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hka2000 t1_iu9msl5 wrote

yea there's a button right below the scroll wheel that switches it from a free spin to a regular

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jlbob t1_iu9pohq wrote

Thank you, that's one of my favorite features of my current mouse.

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AlTaiR_ius t1_iub7pz4 wrote

Yep, well positioned button behind the scroll wheel with a solid click so you can't accidentally change between free wheel and notched.

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Schnoofles t1_iu8x5co wrote

The Naga is actually quite easy to open and clean, and you can also easily replace the switches in them. I would recommend that when opening one for the first time you leave out all the main casing screws except the one in the back of the wrist rest as that one does more than a good enough job of firmly holding it shut. I'm still using a 2014 model to this day and replaced the left button microswitch after 5 years as well as the scroll wheel encoder. It uses standard Omron D2FC-F-K switches and if you have any experience soldering you can do the job in a jiffy. The only difficulty is getting the teflon pads off without damaging them the first time due to the strength of the adhesive, so along with your bag full of switches for $5-10 off ebay you'd also want to spend another $5 on some replacement pads if you go the route of repairing it.

Honestly the only thing I'd ever replace my Naga with is another Naga, because the functionality can't really be beat, only matched. I have a secondary Mamba that I might swap out for a Viper Elite or equivalent at some point, but for the "MMO" style mouse there's really not many options other than the Logitech G600 and Corsair's Scimitar, but that's just replicating functionality you already have, not improving on it. Can't comment on whether their overall quality or handfeel is any better or worse, however, as I haven't personally used them.

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jlbob t1_iu9j6cu wrote

If he eats at/near his computer that is the likely cause and is an inevitable fate for keyboards and mice. To my knowledge, there are no mice designed to be cleaned but a can of air can go a long way.

Edit: Cans of air make bad gifts,>! even if you make a joke about it not being the only thing that blow.!<

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IcePal t1_iua2x1g wrote

I've had a G Pro Superlight since its release and ive had no issues so far. Bonus points as I got a 5 year warranty on it from the retailer.

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CrayziusMaximus t1_iu8ugnk wrote

The Dell MS2220W has an upper shell to remove for replacing the battery and cleaning the switches.

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Qntk t1_iu8ykac wrote

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pawiel t1_iuaqsby wrote

r/MouseReview

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DDl360 t1_iu8nh09 wrote

Get your boyfriend a razer mouse, the newer ones come with optical switches meaning they won't have double clicking issues. I'd recommend the viper mini wired or wireless. It all depends on your budget. If you want a cheaper way to clean your peripherals I use a balloon Inflator hand pump.

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