Yes, this. I get it that in their efforts toward mass appeal some things have been lost. But the Apex bionic (I have an old one and a new one) rocks for lots of not-super cold weather because it is easy to layer and still allows so much movement.

Also, I have a TNF Denali vest that has survived 26 years of hard wear and is still in great shape other than some pipe glue I got on the front of it.