She's Purdy! You don't get to see many cab-overs roaming the roads anymore.

Dad had a forest green one. Loved taking rides with him as a kid.

I'll have to keep this in mind next time I'm buying a semi.

Pro-tip: always read the Amazon reviews before making a big semi purchase.

Summers spent riding along in the sleeper were the best.

So we are celebrating that industrial diesel engines can run for 30 years 16hrs/day? That's the expectation and anything else would be a disappointment.

>That's the expectation and anything else would be a disappointment.

Maybe to somebody who doesn't know jack shit about the trucking industry. https://www.truckinginfo.com/151205/all-you-need-to-know-about-b-numbers

16 hours a day for 30 years at an average speed of 55mph is over 9.6 million miles, the engine would have to be overhauled multiple times to do that.

It's funny because in the UK pretty much all trucks are this style, I love the peterbilt style classic trucks you have over there😎

This sub is filled with non-mechanical things that we would expect to last years. Ffs someone put up their weed grinder

This is such a nice photo

Eastern Washington?

As I recall it's because of how maximum length (truck+trailer) is measured in both countries. Also that in Europe the shorter turning radius of a cabover is really useful.

So what's been replaced in 9milliom miles?

Weed grinders fail faster than most anything. Ffs

Better question, how many miles on the rig? What's the driveline?

For real! I love the riveted gleam of a Peterbilt, but cabovers just have something about them that I love.

1.6 million on original power train. Cummins N14 with Rockwell transmission. Consistently gets 8mpg on IFTA tax reporting.

Northern Arizona, the Colorado River is at the bottom of the valley.

According to a former lorry, now taxi-driver I spoke to in the US, the normal yank style is significantly safer for the driver in cases of a traffic accident!

Mind you, he did also tell me about carrying a gun and waving it about at people who annoyed him whilst driving, so perhaps not the best source of info. Hahaha.

We just call them conventionals as everyone builds them (even Volvo here in the US).

Bit of history, until 1976 the US had a maximum combination length restriction of 65 feet. For a standard 53 foot long van, that only gives you 12 feet of tractor. While you may be able to pull that off with SWB day cab in a conventional config...long haul drivers want sleepers and as long of a wheel base as they can get. 1976, fuel crisis and just about anything that could be done to lessen fuel consumption was done (national speed limit of 55 mph instituted, calls for manufacturers to build more fuel efficient vehicles, etc) and conventional trucks are typically more aerodynamic thus slightly more fuel efficient so the easy solution...extend the combo length limit to 75 feet. When you can haul a standard 53' van...have a long wheel base and a decent sleeper with a conventional tractor...why dick with cabovers?

It's truly a case of they've become rare because Mack, Peterbilt, Kenworth, Freightliner, International, GM, Ford, etc stopped making them simply because due to the lift of length restrictions, they simply weren't selling. Granted, you can still by a cab over Mack and Freightliner today...just not for tractor use (Class B application) though you could probably take an Autocar ACX as a 6x4 tandem drive chassis and add a 5th wheel to it. The cab profile would be lower to the ground compared to a traditional White-Freightliner cabover but the cab is relatively unchanged (in fact, the severe duty Autocar trucks have only updated the cab from the 1960's White-Freight cab in the last 10 years or so).

This is a great truck. I own a shipping company and in order to get into ports we have to upgrade our trucks every couple years. We have a 2000 freightliner that we use as a hostler that I hope never dies.

Nice. So the tractor is a early 90's production?

It's a 1993

Legitimate question: When it was new, did the doors still feel like a piece of cardboard hitting a mushy latch when you close them?

Love everything else about the K100s. Happy truckin from Australia 👍

One thing that vividly has been ingrained in my core memory was the feeling of the outdoors heat coming in as we drove down the open road. Also remember the vivid smells of gas, oil, and overall trucking life without a a major care in the world given that I was a kid just rolling around with pops.

It seemed like they all just vanished one day. Then, a few years ago, I was working a site in Texas and there they all were...crossing back and forth into Mexico.

I cannot count the amount of stainless steel grinders I have seen destroyed /s

I cannot count on one hand how many times I can use a grinder without needing to clean it with iso.

Love those cab-overs. Nice truck.

Or until a crackhead pulls out in front of you lol.

I know just what you mean. The smell of an old-school diesel's exhaust is nostalgic for me. I remember hiding out in the sleeper when we went through the scales or somewhere to unload. All the trucker chatter on 18 and seeing my dad scramble to turn the volume down when the talk went inappropriate (about every 37 seconds or so). The smell of the pages in the carbon-copy logbook. Counting down milemarkers. Breaking out the giant road atlas to look at maps. The air ride chairs. All the junk Truckstops sold.

What a time.

That's quite a bit more, over here (Germany) a semi still tops out at 16.5m or 51ft while a truck+trailer combo can be a good bit longer at 18.75m or 61.5ft. No individual part of that combo must be longer than 12m/ 39ft though. There are some experiments with a semi plus another extra trailer that can be much longer but those are the general restrictions.
From personal experience driving such a ~18.5m truck+trailer combo already massively sucks if you're driving on twisty single lane roads or through old villages so even as I really like their looks i don't think we'll ever change laws to bring back standard cab semis.

Pretty much everything in the driveline that is a friction surface and/or isn't a heavy casting or made from steel would not last for that many miles, most of it would require replacement multiple times. Things like Bearings, seals, rings, cylinder sleeves and water, oil, injector, and fuel pumps, etc.... none of that stuff will last that long.

Keep an eye out for those fake reviews!

What sort of overhauls have the engine and gearbox been through?

And ferries - when the tractor counts for length, the 1-2m hoods cut into cost

Duuuuuuuude carbon-copy logbooks!!!!! I remember looking at it and my dad complaining about having to keep it up to date manually. Lol

I never understood those lines and always thought he was doing futuristic calculations

Edit: also remember helping him clean out the trailer with a broom and running around the aluminum grooved floor thinking the whole inside was HUGE

The engine and transmission haven't been overhauled yet. Still getting good oil sample analysis results

My dad used to let me fill in his logbook, had a tiny red clear plastic ruler to graph out stop and driving times

Watching for quick peaks of the Statue of Liberty between high rises. Still the only time I’ve seen it beyond from a plane window.

Driving to the beach for a few hours in a rig when he had loads in FL

In August Sweden will get 34,5 m truck and trailer combos on select roads. https://i.imgur.com/40uFVMR.jpg

My dad was a mover so we’d strip down packing boxes after unloading for a move so they could be reused.

Exactly. Not at all BIFL. Has OP's rig run that long? Okay, sure. Is it a truck of Theseus? Yes. People can downvote the above responses but that's the point. The block was even likely retooled to some degree.

It's still BIFL because normal maintenance doesn't count and it is not a ship of Theseus because it will still have a multitude of its original components.

Very nice photo! Got a couple of questions for you out of curiosity if you have a minute:

• What's the MPG you get on that thing? Are there any tricks to getting good MPG?

• Does it have a bed in it? I'm not really familiar with this type of stuff so I honestly have no idea. If yes, what size bed?

• What type of maintenance is needed on this and how often per year?

• What's the average lifespan of this? Or, the typical lifespan?

Thanks so much!

I bought a 2018 409 this year. Built like a fuckin tank.

I disagree but whatever

I get 8mpg on average now. Super single tires with slow and smooth driving are key. It has a tiny 3' wide bed right behind the seats. Maintenance is mostly oil changes @ 20K miles. This truck is made to be over hauled repeatedly, it could go as long as parts are available. Not disposable like the current models.

Holy shit.

Ain’t done cummin yet

Is that the Terminator 2 truck model?

I believe that was a Freightliner. I think Optimus prime was this truck once.

Is that like layaway? Is that something you need to be pre-approved for?

Only done 8567 miles

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Disagree? With what? That you have to clean, maintain, and sometimes repair items to make them last? It's no different than cleaning and waterproofing your boots or patching a pair of jeans.

Banned in California for emissions reasons, but those reasons are now redundant.

Originally it was the poor aerodynamics which caused slightly less fuel economy. However in Europe all they use is Cab overs due to length restrictions in cities and highways. As a result they have adapted the cab over design and improved emissions/fuel economy to the point that they match USA trucks.

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Same

You'd think that would be useful in any location..

The interstate roads in America are realllly big.

The K100 was Kenworths most aerodynamic truck until the T600 debuted in 1985.

When he would lift the cab to work the engine under it. It was a real life freaking transformer in my kid brain.

I’m glad you commented. It’s been a nostalgia trip all day

I played at Disney world the summer after I finished college. My dad searched for loads to Florida so he could come watch. Was getting ready for work and a fellow performer told me there was a rig idling all night next to their cabin. Walked over and saw my dad, full 18 wheels parked in our tiny cabin community

He drove the whole thing through the park gates the next morning to watch me perform. The image of him standing in liberty square, full denim and flannel in an Orlando August afternoon with a disposable Kodak camera my mom sent with him will forever be burned in my mind.

He’s gone 8 years this past November and was the hardest working person I’ve known.

Vermillion Cliffs! 89A

That's why they were so prevalent here in the states, but they updated the laws to exclude the tractor. Which is why you occasionally see some trucks with HUGE sleepers.

Beautiful rig. And what a spot to take a picture. My favourite sightseeing corner when I drove to Page.

Correct!

an incredibly beautiful part of this beautiful country

Ultra Magnus reporting for duty

Love these rigs. Always wanted to ride one as a kid

Hauling PolyIso roofing insulation?

Yes, it's easy on the equipment I like it.

And modern docks are usually pretty huge too

I was reading Little House on the Prairie to my kid and we got to the chapter where one of their horses births a colt. I thought “wow, and in our age we just run cars until they stop working and then have to buy another - what a shit deal.”

You can really paint a picture. Thanks.

'93? Looks like something from the sixties or seventies! I like it.

So if I were just loosely guess at fuel costs over that 1.6 mil land just put the number at 3$ a gallon which we know is low for today that puts you at 600k spent in diesel. Realistically probably closer to 800-900k with todays prices.

r/accidentalwesanderson

That ISO on that back is light. Not sure if that's a normal haul for ya.

wait 8mpg? I always knew they had bad gas mileage but 8 is lower than I had ever thought it could be! Don't the old H2 Hummers get like 11mpg? This means if you're on the highway, you'd have to refuel every 30 minutes or something? Doesn't that get frustrating? It feels that like would drive me crazy after a while.

Additionally, what did that truck cost you when it was new? Also, what would it cost to buy, as-is in its current condition, today? And finally, what's the typical cost of a similarly spec'd new truck and do people usually finance one or buy it outright?

Thanks so much!

Awesome landscape

Besides rail, Trucks are some of the most efficient methods we have to move stuff. In the us, a semi can be loaded to 80,000lbs while the hummer is only rated to tow 6,600lbs. Semi trucks typically have 150 to 300 gallons of diesel capacity meaning at 8mpg you could go up to 2,400 miles on one tank.

I bet the hummer would get worse mpg than the truck of they were both towing the same amount.

I was about to ask what mods are you using because I thought this was a post on the truck simulator subreddit lmao. Beautiful rig!!!

Optimus Prime as a Tarheels fan

8mpg is pretty good for a semi truck. I have 240 gallons of fuel capacity. I didn't buy it new, I was 10 years old. I think it was about $50,000 new in 1993. New trucks are $150,000+ most people finance that amount. There's no getting a similar spec truck anymore.

So North America...our roads are typically straighter, many cities and communities are specifically built around automobiles and gradients are much more strictly managed (one of the reason most long haul truck sit around 500 hp, more power simply isn't needed for the majority of our loads).

Now you do see tandems in use here in the US but they are 28.5 feet long each. Canada allows what are called B-trains where they haul tandem 53 footers. Australia on the other hand has what are called road trains...which can be three to five full length vans.

I e had this one called "kannistor" for 10 years at least, daily use

That backdrop 🤯

Moving the engine out front makes the trucks a lot more comfortable. The interior is more roomy. They are quieter. It’s easier to access the sleeper and with the cab mounted lower there is a lot less sway.

True, but cargo capacity trumped driver comfort. (My grandfather drove a COE OTR for 30 years). If the choice was a 53' trailer and a cab over, or a 48' trailer and a conventional cab, a company is going to choose the cabover every day. For my grandfather that was the difference between hauling 1 piece of equipment or two. (He drove for Case)

Man get that thing off the road. It's a hazard to the rest of us