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AdSorry7050 t1_jadw2aa wrote

The cost of living is pretty fucked

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Tor451 t1_jadycta wrote

This was obvious from the beginning, people actrec like all these measures would be free. Of course when we brought it up we got told "you are killing grandma"

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ZucchiniBitter t1_jae258f wrote

I hear you but hey, perish the thought anyone tax billionaires/companies appropriately and take it out of the hundreds of billions plugged away that would net. I know some say it's "not possible" but hypothetically if it was we'd most likely not be getting screwed once again.

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Tor451 t1_jae42mn wrote

I am all for taxing billionaires but I won't ever equate a billionaire to a corporation. Those are totally different things. I don't think corporations should be taxed at a high rate. I think billionaires income should be taxed at 90+%

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ZucchiniBitter t1_jae6kri wrote

For clarification I was talking about billionaires who evade/avoid paying tax(es). Forgive me for not being clearer. Although I'm one who subscribes to the thought that there shouldn't be billionaires and people starving to death on the same planet but that's a different topic entirely.

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Big_Education_745 t1_jadw416 wrote

Night shift people lives. Nothing is ever open late anymore

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B3RS3RK_CR0W t1_jadze3e wrote

This shit annoys the hell out of me. I'm not even a night shift worker, but I miss being able to go grocery shopping at 3am when there were only like 10 people in the store.

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[deleted] t1_jae0v35 wrote

I think a lot of businesses started to phase that out, like Walmart. post hurricanes along the gulf coast, many did not return to a 24 hour schedule.

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mjs6976 t1_jae1noi wrote

Blame thieves for that

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Joe-Schmeaux t1_jaeaxqk wrote

What are you talking about? Theft is up since the pandemic hit and places started closing earlier, not down.

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mjs6976 t1_jaemsvx wrote

And imagine how bad it would be at 2 am

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JonMatrix t1_jadwqhf wrote

I feel ya. We actually just had a local McDonald’s finally switch back to 24hrs so there is hope.

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mkicon t1_jady6va wrote

The entire month was 4/20(In the US at least) and it was stolen

I don't even smoke, but for years I heard "in 2020 it'll be 4/20 all month!"

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TidderRocco t1_jadymcf wrote

What is this stuff?can you explain?

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Jent01Ket02 t1_jaenkoj wrote

It was a rare lunar event on the night where most people would have the most free time. It would have been the perfect Halloween night for everyone to have fun. Instead, they were all stuck at home.

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mkicon t1_jae2iq3 wrote

There was a point where I could sell my used Toyota for more than it cost brand new

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Maleficent_Quiet_561 t1_jadxq7o wrote

Peoples conception of truth.

So many more people are conspiracy theorists now... and not the fun kind of conspriacies that it used to be...

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Tor451 t1_jadyneh wrote

Very true. That people trusted big Pharma and masks is something I never thought I would see

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Maleficent_Quiet_561 t1_jae4jo7 wrote

And there we go.

So all the people outside of America who have their own health departments and their own experts... trusted America big pharma?

And of course the evil govt of every country told us to wear masks just to exercise their dominance, right????

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Tor451 t1_jae4ww9 wrote

This makes no sense, can you try to explain this in a different way?
I don't have data on other countries and organization like the WHO are primarily funded by America

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Maleficent_Quiet_561 t1_jae6h4e wrote

Omg. You claim people trusted big pharma... so you honestly think the entire world simply did whatever the America health industry asked them to do?

So by that logic... every single nations independent health departments and scientists/ experts who devoted their entire lifes to their career just decided to do the bidding of WHO and big pharma?

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Tor451 t1_jae6qmr wrote

I have no idea what you are ranting about. It seems like you are saying "other countries did something that means everything the Trump administration did was correct" That's just silly

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Maleficent_Quiet_561 t1_jaeahah wrote

You must be trolling.

I will try and simplify this again, hopefully your one braincell can understand it this time.

Your dumbass said big pharma lied to everyone... i said thats dumb as fuck because it assumes that every other country, for some reason, was following big pharmas lead. Understand now you fucking idiot?

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Tor451 t1_jaean3i wrote

Ahh, you must feel like insulting me makes you correct. Lol

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Maleficent_Quiet_561 t1_jaeuuek wrote

Oh how predictable... making some insanely stupid assertion then refuse to elaborate and then fail to respond when i prove you wrong.

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jae02jl wrote

You think you’re smart, so I guess that’s what’s important!

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Tor451 t1_jae3mfx wrote

I don't think I am smart. I just know I got lied to by big Pharma and Trump

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jae40i0 wrote

Your autocorrect must have changed “masks” to “Trump”

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Tor451 t1_jae4py1 wrote

Nope, Trump is the reason for all this

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jae4w5i wrote

So you’re good with masks, but not Trump

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Tor451 t1_jae5dta wrote

I apologize for confusing you. The way masking was done in America was counterproductive and damaged sociaty.

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jaea0j4 wrote

You’re surprised that people trusted masks (from your first comment), but now you think the way masking was done was counterproductive? How do you reconcile these two points?

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Tor451 t1_jaeaj49 wrote

I am surprised people blindly trusted masking as being productive even after Fauci said not to trust masks then flip flopped on it, I am surprised people trusted masking without evidence of it working

It was counterproductive because people had a false sense of security when wearing masks just for starters.

It's logically consistent so I have no idea what your issue is

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jaeb0fc wrote

Fauci’s statement early on in the pandemic was to avoid a mask shortage for healthcare workers. Not that you care about the details, but that was well documented. Time went on, the mask supply changed, ergo advice from the CDC changed.

I do agree with you that the half-assed attempt to mask (as well as social distance and vaccinate) in America cost lives.

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Tor451 t1_jaebdrk wrote

There was never a shortage on cloth masks.

Facts do matter to me. Fauci lied. Are you saying he was justified in lying to the public?

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jaecbwx wrote

There’s no point to continue arguing this - it has been debunked and settled. I know it’s tough to accept that a changing pandemic resulted in changing guidance from the CDC, but to expect things to always be the same is simply rigid, black and white thinking.

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Tor451 t1_jaeedss wrote

Debunked now? Lol I expect experts who claim to represent science, like Fauci did, to have some type of scientific evidence to back up their changing guidelines. I expect them to be honest with us, to not say one thing publicly then another privately.

If he believed masks worked then he should tell us. If he wanted medical professionals to have them and was concerned about supply he should have done what my governor did, tell us to donate medical grade masks and use cloth masks.

Masks did not work. We know that now. We need a to accept where we were wrong and move on I was wrong about masks too. I was lied to and I was wrong because I believed those lies instead of fact checking Millions of people wore dirty masks because of a shortage , how many were harmed by that?
At work I am to change my filters every 8 hours. Those are the guidelines. Did they ever tell us to do that? Nope, they said "wear two instead"

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jaef6vh wrote

Yup, the claim that Fauci said “masks don’t work” was grasped onto and used as political fuel for Trump’s supporters and his conspiracy-minded friends in the media.

Two questions:

Search mask effectiveness for covid - the CDC and Mayo are among the top results, both of which still recommend mask usage (including data) for reducing the contraction/transmission of covid. This directly contradicts your view. What do you make of that?

How would you have liked the mask policy to be handled in America?

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Tor451 t1_jaefm3f wrote

Mask only if you have symptoms. High quality masks for those who need them like immune compromised

There was a conspiracy , maybe we should admit that. We got lied to and Trump was in charge.

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Double_Stuffd_Whoreo t1_jaefz9s wrote

Edited my comment with a couple questions.

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Tor451 t1_jaegc27 wrote

I answered one, I have no idea what you are talking about with the Mayo clinic, link the study of you want m to see it

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Maleficent_Quiet_561 t1_jae4nsm wrote

Yes trump lied when he said it was a hoax. Agreed.

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Tor451 t1_jae52lm wrote

That never happened, I dislike Trump a lot and think he is a criminal but it never ceases to amaze me how the left feels the compulsion to lie about Trump

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Maleficent_Quiet_561 t1_jae63et wrote

"Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus… this is their new hoax."

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Tor451 t1_jae6gqf wrote

Yup, he was calling the reaction of the Democrats a hoax. At the same time he was doing a million other things that showed he considered it an emergency. Trump is an idiot who speaks like an idiot. Twisting the stupid stuff he says is counterproductive. I don't care about it. There are so many things he did wrong that we don't need to make stuff up.

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ImInJeopardy t1_jae35rn wrote

The idea that the government will take care of its people. Not that this idea was ever too strong to begin with... But it's definitely dead now.

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Joe-Schmeaux t1_jaef41e wrote

I think about this from time to time. If the government, which basically runs on taxes, cannot be trusted to take care of the people, but there aren't many alternatives, and their programs are becoming more and more ineffective...should we listen when they say they need more tax revenue?

On the one hand, things like social security, disability, medicare/aid, education, highway safety, military defense, etc., are paid for with taxes, and all of those things except for military are suffering or inadequate. People on fixed incomes cannot afford to live anywhere. Public education is notoriously underfunded and constantly under attack. Infrastructure in this country is decades behind maintenance. Healthcare has been hijacked by for-profit interests to the point where thousands of people die every year not because they couldn't be treated, but because they couldn't pay.

On the other hand, if we dismantled those programs and allowed the public sector to attempt to fill the gaps, corporate interests would misalign with humanitarian challenges, and arguably things would get much worse. It's sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. I'd gladly pay a higher percentage of taxes if (1) rich people had to, too, and (2) those taxes were actually used for the things we so desperately need if we don't wish to become some sort of hellscape.

At this point, I don't know what government could do to regain trust from the people, but not trusting them at all would leave us in the hands of the oligarchs, whose solutions would in all likelihood be much more calculating and cruel. Ooh, look, something shiny!

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Tor451 t1_jadyj4p wrote

This is heartbreaking, I became a lot more religous after realizing how easy everything can be torn apart

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Awkward-Juice-8323 t1_jadys83 wrote

this really fucked me up because i was then completely clueless about myself

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SGTRhoads16 t1_jaedmco wrote

I'd like to see a study done on this. Since COVID I've obtained a degree, opened my own business, and got married. Still feel lost.

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Ok-Interview9355 t1_jadvzv4 wrote

Independent/smaller/DIY music venues never really recovered

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Aforano t1_jadyqfx wrote

Kid’s development

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jesuisledoctor2009 t1_jae16i6 wrote

I work in public education, and you would not believe how bad these kids are now. The ones who missed out on middle school due to COVID. Basically straight from in person elementary school to in person high school. Middle school is more formative to kids behavior than anything else, and they just do not get it. They were locked up with alcoholic parents for two years, so it's no wonder, but not something many people discuss.

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Shadow948 t1_jae2h9u wrote

Younger kids because most of their human interact has been from watching YouTube creators and the such during covid have started to take on very exaggerated speech mannerisms where they just randomly get loud or excited sounding mid sentence just like how streamers act like with their streaming personality.

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jou_maman t1_jady4jr wrote

Kids lives not only parents were affected kids lost alot of there chilhood to covid

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Mat0fr t1_jadvwzh wrote

meeting IRL with friends

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dependabledepression t1_jae3cc0 wrote

Public etiquette, no one knows how to act in public anymore (not that they did prior, but it's so much worse now), movie theatres, restaurants, school, etc..

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Darnitol1 t1_jae6n9y wrote

People watching TikTok videos ON SPEAKER during a movie at a theater, anyone?

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ZackAttacks01 t1_jadyim8 wrote

Cheap Eats/Products. Ramen? Spam? Cans of Tuna? Yep. All gone up significantly.

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chaotic_hippy_89 t1_jae0r88 wrote

I’m seeing local kids walking home from school in their pajamas. They’re going to school in their pajamas so much more often now like they’re so used to just sitting around all day doing COVID school

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stopdaflexin t1_jadweq9 wrote

Everybody's freedom. Nobody gets out anymore

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jbwise1221 t1_jaf0fzk wrote

Might be true somewhere, but there are concerts, restaurants and festivals galore where I live, which was one of the strictest covid protocol states in the US. Maybe you and your peer group is super cautious, but that’s a choice you make freely. I have been to a dozen festivals in four countries since June of 21. I have probably been to 60 concerts most of which have sold out.

So in general, you are free to get together with people and have fun if you think it’s worth the risk. And many people are doing just that.

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Ok-Interview9355 t1_jadw1ls wrote

My social/work life, after living like a hermit for 2 years and working from home, it's taking me a long time to go out like before.

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JonMatrix t1_jadxged wrote

Working in the restaurant industry, pretty much all of our supplies. It’s getting better, but initially we couldn’t even get simple things like napkins on a consistent basis.

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PhysicsIll3482 t1_jadxkp1 wrote

Seeing all these responses and saying to myself, "Yep, it did that. That too! Also that. That's right too!", not seeing any response I disagree with, I wonder what it didn't ruin more than we realize, come to think of it, ya know? Damnn....

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deloreansrock t1_jadzgbk wrote

Late night eateries. Lots of places by me used to be open until midnight, now they’re all closed by 9 or 10

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ZackAttacks01 t1_jaei3si wrote

Bingo. It’s gotten really bad from both sides. The moderate is dead. Long live the moderate. 🙁

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itsinmybloodScotland t1_jaej6ne wrote

Children just born. Basically never got out for 2 years. When you think about it that was absolutely heartbreaking

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xaviersaucey t1_jady5j9 wrote

Kinda ruined all my highschool friend groups; cause by the time it was over we were all different people

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Ordinary-Nectarine81 t1_jae00m7 wrote

To me...I realized that people have become complete assholes!! No more "excuse me," "sorry about that", smiles, hello's, courtesy, manners. Just a bunch of self titled pricks have emerged. So sad.

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[deleted] t1_jae0wlv wrote

my faith in humanity

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petitepineux t1_jae26vb wrote

The medical system. If you were in it frequently as a patient with multiple health issues, everything went to shit. Doctors burned put and left or are checked out and unabailable, insurance reshiffled prices on medications to raise costs, hospital workers are still traumatized from the beginning surge and hospitals seem to give a lower quality of care than before (from what I've heard). A lot of people with issues other than COVID had to delay treatment bc during surges the hospitals filled up unnecessarily, now the anti-vaxx movement gained traction, there is more hostility about being germ-conscious and following public health protocol bc nobody trusts the CDC (for good reason), people have started this anti-science movement in earnest. For people with chronic conditions like myself it has become a nightmare because medical supplies increased about 200% in cost. And socially it is also a nightmare bc I feel threatened asking for medical accommodations now (I'm immunocompromised) because people think I'm making a political statement because I have to wear a mask. It's scary to go out in public because you may get harrassed but it's also uncomfortable trying to mention this to friends and potential partners bc they are either traumatized bc of the pandemic or they think you're political or even mentally ill.

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Tiara2002 t1_jae420x wrote

People of education. Seriously, even before pandemic not a lot people were fond of the idea of becoming teachers. And now teachers appreciate their work even less, as well as their students.

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dw87190 t1_jaeg4w9 wrote

My patience for Australian left wingers and right wingers

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TailsxCream4Eva t1_jadzk0y wrote

This sub, as it loves to ask questions about that pandemic when most people in the real world have moved on.

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InMediaVirtus t1_jae4s75 wrote

I'm sorry for the people that suffered in anyway, but for me was good experience. No family or friends got very sick or died. Luckily my wife and my self got punctually paid by our companies during all the confinament, and I had the opportunity to stop and re-asses my life. I lost 30 kilos. Not to travel for business helped a lot in to have a helthy and equilibrated diet. We walked daily by the mountain in front of my house (yes, we live in a little village). I build a greenhouse to grow my vegetables. My cellar was reformed and filled (with good wines at discounted price due to lack of sales to restaurants and hotels, that were closed). I read books that was waiting in the library for too much time. Bought an e-mountain byke and enjoyed nice routes. Not all was good, of course, we couldn't meet family and friends as much as we wanted, no concerts, theater and so, but the bottomline was very positive. Now I take my life in a diffferent way, specially what concerns to my work.

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